Yeah! 
 Be thankful for what we've got for crying out loud! 

----- Original Message -----
From: Robert C <[email protected]>
To: "Dane Trethowan" <[email protected]>, "Bryan Peterson" 
<[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, Mar 15, 2011 21:54:39
Subject: Re: No more betas, Abig mistake!

>
>
>     There is so much negativity here its a wonder GW Micro feels its worth 
> their while to continue development of Window Eyes.
> 
>     Given how much more complex the web is, and software, not to mention the 
> scads of applications to achieve tasks like social networking, people need 
> to step back and appreciate what they have now.  We could be the next Japan, 
> then what?
> 
> Quote of the nanosecond...
> JAWDIP
> "Just Another Wonderful Day In Paradise"
> Robert & Dreamer Doll  ke7nwn
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> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[email protected]>
> To: "Bryan Peterson" <[email protected]>
> Cc: "Don H" <[email protected]>; "gwmicro" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:01 PM
> Subject: Re: No more betas, Abig mistake!
> 
> 
> I don't think these company's making money give a damn about how buggy or 
> how their software works — or doesn't as the case may be — these days, gone 
> it seems are the days once upon a not so long ago when a Screen Reader 
> wasn't released for sale until bugs and problems were well and truly sorted 
> and documented, now its just about how much money a company can make on an 
> upgrade and getting that upgrade out ASAP and damn the consequences.
> 
> 
> On 16/03/2011, at 12:54 PM, Bryan Peterson wrote:
> 
> > I don't know. After all Greedom Science Fiction releases FW updates on a 
> > fairly regular basis and yet in my experience they've been extremely 
> > buggy. I'm no programming expert but even I got a sort of rushed feeling 
> > whenever I'd get a new update. That's one of the reasons I ditched JAWS 
> > almost four years ago. I only hope I won't have to go back to using it on 
> > the job once I do manage to find one.
> > We are the Knights who saaaaay...Ni!
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <[email protected]>
> > To: "gwmicro" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: No more betas, Abig mistake!
> >
> >
> >ar I was told by one of the GW staff that they were going to start releasing 
> >ar more updates more often.  Don't know for sure if this a good or bad idea. 
> >ar I do know three years between major updates is far to long.
> >ar On 3/15/2011 8:39 PM, Robert Grimwood wrote:
> >>> I disagree! I think that GWMicro's decisions should be made purely on
> >>> the basis of who says what on this list. Let us just count the pros ond
> >>> cons based on list responses; then GWMicro can make its decisions.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Robert
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Skarstad"
> >>> <[email protected]>
> >>> To: <[email protected]>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 5:49 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: No more betas, Abig mistake!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I'm afraid I must agree with everyone else, why not release it when
> >>>> it's ready? Clearly, GW Micro is very confident in 7.5 and while I
> >>>> would've liked to have seen them release another version with the
> >>>> remote assistance feature enabled so we could have a sneak-peak, I do
> >>>> believe they know what they're doing and wouldn't release it unless
> >>>> they were confident. Clearly they are.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> At 07:59 AM 3/13/2011, you wrote:
> >>>>> Hello
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No more betas!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That is a big mistake for GW Micro, for users can point out even more
> >>>>> problems with the current release 7.5. I am sure that the revision
> >>>>> they envisage is not sufficient to meet current user needs.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Peter Duran
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