Well, I don't know about that! "smile" You're welcome. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Belle [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 8:57 AM To: Sandra Fouts Cc: [email protected] Subject: RE: beware of nettalk and voip services in general
Your a babe Sandra, thank you for that valuable information. At 08:23 AM 4/21/2011, Sandra Fouts wrote: >Chris, and also everyone else on the list. If you have a consumer >complaint on a company, you can usually contact the consumer >protection division of your Attorney General's office in the state you >live in. If you need their number, you can go to www.naag.org >and find all the listings on the Attorney Generals, phone >number, website, and mailing address. Chris, maybe your Attorney >General's office can help you. Good luck. > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Chris Belle [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 8:11 AM >To: Carol and Roger; [email protected] >Subject: beware of nettalk and voip services in general > >Before posting this, I thought hard about it, whether to just cowboy >up and suck it up but I feel this is a topic which in general is of >interest to blind folks, and sightedalike, and an integral part of our >life needs and people need to be aware. > >I humbly appologize in advance to anyone this offends because it isn't >a window-eyes or gwmicro issue specifically. > >But you may need a phone service to call gwmicro for tech support you >see, and how would you feel if you had to wait, only to be cut off >after waiting a long time by some bean counter at the phone company >admin, because the good folks at gwmicro were busy helping someone else >spending just as much time with other as they would with you? > >Following is a recap of our experiences. >Feel free to forward this to anyone who might benefit. > >snip >I really don't think it's in good taste to publically badmouth >companies, but I don't like to see people taken advantage of or be mislead. > >My wife and I subscribed to the nettalk voip service wanting a flat >rate, unlimited service for long distance. > >We heard about it through blind cool tech > >The tech we originally talked to to get our service set up was helpful >and polite, and answered all our questions and there was no mention of >limited service, and yes, we asked. > >But buried deep in the service agreement is a clause which mentions a >limit of 5000 minutes a month, which ends up being less than 3 hours a >day, and indeed, our service did get cut off gsoon after we subscribed. > >Seems after exceeding 5000 minutes in a month, they want you to pay by >the minute in reality, they call this their business plan. > >they mention on the front page that their plan is good enough to fire >your phone company and they suggest their service as a perfect solution >for home office. > >I have written and called customer service, to no avail, and made >repeated attempts to contact them and get a satisfactory resolution, >including their public relations person, Bill Douglas, who hung up on >me because i wasn't an authorized dealer. > >I got shuffled around from one rep to another, they were polite, but we >more or less got the run-around. > >So we are $69 out, and no phone service unless we want to pay by the >minute because they deemed we used too much time, > >5 thousand minutes a months ends up being roughly 2.7 hours a day, >hardly what I consider excessive use. > >They claim most folks use less than 300 minutes a month. > >To me, abusive usage would be staying on conference lines for 8 plus >hours a day, and doing telemarketing, etc. > >there was no warning, or anything, just all of a sudden in the middle >of teaching, my phone wouldn't work anymore for outgoing calls. > >Our friends who use vonage, which also seems to have hidn >restrictions, got a polite call from the company, but at least they >were warned. > >Just thought I'd let you guys looking for good phone services to note >our experiences, and make a wise decision accordingly. > >YOu would think in these hard times, a company especially a small one >like nettalk would want to have happy customers, and repeated business. > >But we won't be recommending nettalk anymore if this is the way they >treat their customers. > >Furthermore, our regular dsl and phone provider at&t gave us a great >deal, and lowered our price to come back, with full features, and even >a reduction in dsl price, and it is truly unlimited, only restriction >is to not use it as a data line, and that was told to us up front, and >they give warnings if they deem something is out of line. > >So once again, I guess you do get what you pay for, and let the buyer beware. > > >Don't make my mistake and get taken up the garden path as it were. > >I'm still trying to negotiate some sort of meeting halfway with >nettalk, to at-least get limited service through out the year I bought >from them, so far to no avail. > >Lastly, from talking to other people, and our own previous experiences >with magic jaqck, we suspect voip companies use tactics to discourage >long calls such as being dropped in mid conversation, the inability to >call the party your are talking to back immediately after being >dropped, also there are issues reaching certain areas, and considering; >you are using your own bandwidth this just seems like not such a good >deal after all. > >These guys just need to be up front and tell you, you get so many >minutes a month and here you go. > >Thank you for reading this, now go do the right thing. > > >For all your audio production needs and technology training, visit us >at > >www.affordablestudioservices.com >or contact >Chris Belle >[email protected] >or >Stephie Belle >[email protected] >for customized web design >If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your >message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your >message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. > >GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can >manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv. >If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your >message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your >message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. > >GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can >manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv. For all your audio production needs and technology training, visit us at www.affordablestudioservices.com or contact Chris Belle [email protected] or Stephie Belle [email protected] for customized web design If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv.
