Hi! Take out all those doodads, and make it utilitarian. Besides, all the graphics is a great system hog.--Matthew Chao
>>> Sandra Fouts <[email protected]> 10/17/2012 11:24 AM >>> It still sounds like a mess for me. I mean come on, what do you have? You've got tiles, store, toast, and charms! Fun fun! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 10:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Guess What? Window-Eyes 8.0 Beta 1 Supports Windows 8! Hi Bill When I think of the history of computing, I actually find that everything is getting much easier. Although it is very different. where the challenge lies is just when we get into thinking about something in a specific fashion the playground changes. Think about how word processing programs like Word Star used to function. We had to use dot commands at the beginning of lines and control characters to create specific behaviours.. And we began thinking of Windows in a certain way during the 3.1 era. Windows 95 began to change that, but not much. Windows 7 is rather easy, but again when we got used to the pull down menus, which might be a carry over from some DOS applications, we get a ribbon tossed at us. What I do find the most frustrating is when something isn't working correctly it is a lot more difficult for me to get into low level trouble shooting on a Windows 7 computer. Back in DOS and using the CONFIG.SYS file to block off sections of memory and INI files to set interrupts I could wrap my head around that and know where to look for things. However although trouble shooting is more challenging for me due to my background, someone like my father in-law has a much shorter learning curve when using Windows 7 and newer office products. Even when I work with new comers to computers from the vision impaired community they seem to be OK, because they are not carrying as much history as I am when they are taught new software. Vic -----Original Message----- From: Bill Scherer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 9:58 AM To: Raul A. Gallegos Cc: Window-Eyes discussion list Subject: Re: Guess What? Window-Eyes 8.0 Beta 1 Supports Windows 8! Seems as though, that the operation of these new OS's gets more complicated for blind users rather than easier. I don't see that as a screen reader fault, but rather the fact that Microsoft still doesn't consider the blind in it's design like it should--of course that's not only Microsoft that does this. <grin> Bill ..----- Original Message ----- From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <[email protected]> To: "GW Info List" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:43 AM Subject: Re: Guess What? Window-Eyes 8.0 Beta 1 Supports Windows 8! > Hi, this same kind of discussion happens every time a new Windows > operating system comes out. It was true when it went from Windows 3.1 to > Windows 95, then again when Windows 98 came out. Then again when Windows > xp came out. Then when Vista came out. And of course when Windows 7 came > out. So, while your question is valid, the truth is, it's human nature to > wonder about such things. Windows 8 may or may not be as easy as other > operating systems, but just think of the past history of Windows operating > systems. Things change, and so is it learning a new Windows which is > frightening, or is change itself what is more frightening. > > -- > Raul A. Gallegos > STRESSED spelled backwards is DESSERTS. > Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com > Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 > Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 > > On 10/16/2012 4:58 PM, Sandra Fouts wrote: >> So what would be the hardest to learn? Windows 8 or a Mack computer? >> Windows 8 sounds confusing to me. > If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender > only. 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