Hi, With WLM on Win 7 64, start composing a message. Then, press windows m to go to the desktop. When I alt tab back, the message stays minimized and I can’t continue composing and have to close and restart from a draft or new message. For browse mode, yes, I would like a single keypress for controls like you suggested. Maybe make it an option in the settings for the people that wanted it the other way. Also speaking of browse mode, could you make the arrow keys deactivate browse mode? I don’t want to have to press enter or tab. I know how it works in Jaws is that if nothing’s in the box, pressing up or down arrow automaticly turns it back off. The only thing this would not be used for is things like radio buttons, checkboxes or comboboxes. Maybe I’m wanting too much though Sorry if I came off like I hated WE in my first message. I just wanted to make you aware of these issues.
From: Doug Geoffray Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:11 AM To: Patrick Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: copying formatting such as tables from a web page Patrick, Let me address each of your issues in this email: 1) FF and flash Unfortunately the crash you are seeing is related for a FF bug. We have been fighting with Adobe and Mozilla to get this resolved for some time. We started with Adobe and after several months they determined it is a bug in FF and posted the following bug with Mozilla: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=781971 I suggest everyone put as much pressure as possible on Mozilla to get this bug resolved. We are able to duplicate this bug without Window-Eyes running but using the Microsoft accessibility testing tools instead. 2) occasional system hang If you are able to duplicate this with some reliability I can give you some steps that would help get us debug information to see what is causing the hang. 3) WLM I'm not seeing this. If you can give anything that would help repro this on demand that would be helpful. 4) browse mode nav keys I want to make sure I'm following... Right now to get to the next button you can press "NB" but you aren't liking this and would just rather have a single keypress? The same is true for edit box, combo box, check box, radio button, list box? 5) formatted selection This won't make 8.0 but could actually be done pretty easy with a Window-Eyes app...humm... For now you can just select the entire page as was suggested and doing the chopping in wherever you are pasting the content which I assume is something like Word which can retain the structure or all this is moot anyway. Doug On 10/24/2012 10:42 AM, Patrick wrote: I detailed some of my issues with WE in my first email to the list, subject suggestion for browse mode. Also though, I’m seeing a lot of things get overlooked like the issue with Firefox and youtube videos causing the system to hang until ff is closed. Also, there’s the persistent issue of IE and WE both causing the system to hang occasionally when you have multiple windows using browse mode. This typicly happens if WE has to be restarted for any reason, and it’s not consistent. Sometimes it can happen in one windo, and then you could restart WE again to try and fix the issue and have it be fine in that window, but have the same thing happen in another. With Live Mail, sometimes I again have to restart WE because the message body field will not read when writing a message, and if you hit windows m and then try and alt tab back, WE has issues focusing, and I need to restart composing from scratch. Browse mode is indeed doing better, however, I would like the commands such as navigating to buttons etc be put in WE itself instead of either having to use control search or hitting c to get to the control you want. I have some of these issues more detailed in other emails, but hope this helps. Can you make copying formatting included in the final release? From: Doug Geoffray Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 7:21 AM To: Patrick Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: copying formatting such as tables from a web page Patrick, Can you be more specific? Is the copy and paste what makes you say this or do you have other issues? I hate to see broad statements like this without more details. It can be very misleading to others. Doug On 10/23/2012 8:50 PM, Patrick wrote: Thanks. I really feel this needs to be addressed. Window-eyes is way behind when it comes to this. I know this is beta but coming from using jaws and nvda ever since 7.5.4.1, I’m left disappointed at where we 8 beta is still with browse mode. From: Cory Martin Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: copying formatting such as tables from a web page Hi, Do an insert b, insert a, insert b, insert c. That will copy the entire contents of the page to the clipboard where you can paste it somewhere and strip off what you don't want. Unfortunately there is no other way to copy individual page elements at this time. Cory On 23/10/2012 5:00 PM, Patrick wrote: Hi, I’m trying to select text from a webpage that is a table. However, W.E does not copy such formatting over. I have to use another screen reader since W.E only copies the textual info with no formatting. Am I missing something? Patrick -- Cory Martin Cisco Academy for the Visually Impaired Instructor Website: http://www.nerdball.net/ Skype: dark_inversion Twitter: nerdball_net If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv.
