I agree. I listened to it and either that FS lawyer didn't have a good
grip or understanding of his arguement or he was trying to win through
methods of confusion or something. It is so frustrating that the world
of patents seems to have gone to complete corruption and is used for
dishonesty and corruption and nothing is happening to stop the train
reck that it is. We the consumers end up being the loosers while rich
people often get to use it as a method of running offwith stolen money
or rights to something that they should not have. In this case justice
prevailed in something that should have never happened to begin with.

On 10/30/12, Louis <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, Someone, was it Steve Z? sent out a link for it at his dropbox, and I
> got it from there.  All I can say, after listening to it, is that I'm glad I
> wasn't one of those lawyers or judges trying to puzzle out what the SF
> lawyer was trying to get across; sounded to me as if he didn't quite have a
> grip on his argument.  If I were one of those judges, I think you'd all
> still be awaiting my  decision, or I'd have to order that lawyer to time-out
> and get his ducks in a row.  What a holy mess is the world of patents.
>
> Louis Gosselin
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:00 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Federal Circuit Court affirmed the US Patent Office Decision
> invalidating Freedom Scientific's patent and eliminating their claims
> against GW Micro
>
> Hi, Louis.
>
> Go to that link, and in the Appeal Number edit box, type in
>
> 2012-1145
>
> Note the dash between the two sets of numbers. Press enter, and on the next
> page, do a find for mp3, or tab to the mp3 link.
>
> Alternatively, you can use this direct link to the mp3:
>
> http://oralarguments.cafc.uscourts.gov/default.aspx?fl=2012-1145.mp3
>
> Aaron
>
> On 10/30/2012 7:43 AM, Louis wrote:
>> I* did try to follow the provided link to the circuit court's Website, so
>> I could listen, but that link didn't get me close enough to the
>> appropriate page so as to make a decent guess which link was the right one
>> to try to download the .mp3.  Too bad; I would really have liked to listen
>> to those arguments.
>>
>> Louis Gosselin
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jeremy Curry [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 3:16 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: FW: Federal Circuit Court affirmed the US Patent Office
>> Decision invalidating Freedom Scientific's patent and eliminating
>> their claims against GW Micro
>>
>> FYI
>>
>>
>>
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 9:46 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Federal Circuit Court affirmed the US Patent Office Decision
>> invalidating Freedom Scientific's patent and eliminating their claims
>> against GW Micro
>>
>>
>>
>> In July of 2008 on my first day back in the office after the Sight Village
>> conference, someone entered our office and handed me a summons and
>> notification of a lawsuit brought on by Freedom Scientific against GW
>> Micro.  They received a patent for certain screen reader features and our
>> response was that Window-Eyes had those same basic features several years
>> prior to their patent.  This was the beginning of a long waste of time and
>> money, which finally came to a close last week.  GW Micro is vindicated -
>> it's over - the court decided in our favor!
>>
>> I won't provide all the details but in general, the Patent Office
>> reexamined their patent at our request and found it to be invalid in view
>> of prior art.  Both the patent examiner and the Board of Appeals in the
>> Patent Office came to the same conclusion - the patent is invalid.
>> Despite those results, they asked for a federal court to review the
>> decision and again they came to the same conclusion as everyone else.  You
>> may listen to this final argument by going to
>> http://www.cafc.uscourts.gov/oral-argument-recordings/search/audio.html
>> search for Appeal 2012-1145, listen to the MP3 file and you will easily
>> come to the same conclusion as everyone else.  Their original patent
>> should not have been granted in the first place and without the patent,
>> there are no grounds for their lawsuit against GW Micro.  If you decide to
>> listen to that file, you should be aware that it is a large file, which
>> will take some time to download.
>>
>> We want to thank you all for the many words of encouragement, support and
>> prayers that we've received over these past 4 years.  Not one person ever
>> suggested that we should do anything other than fight and defend
>> ourselves.  However, the sad fact is that actions like this hurt all of
>> us.  This caused a waste of dollars and time for both our companies, which
>> could have been spent improving existing products and developing new
>> ones.
>>
>> GW Micro chooses to take the path of creating new products, features and
>> innovations and our recent release of our Window-Eyes 8 public beta
>> illustrates that perfectly.  If you haven't done so already, I hope you
>> will give it a try.  Simply doing that will show your support of GW Micro.
>>  We promise to continue to work hard and conduct business in an honest and
>> proper fashion.  The reputation of GW Micro will never be litigation
>> instead of innovation.
>>
>
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