going back to Skype and again why I said I don't mind apps. Connect has bugs
that the skype program itself does not have. This is the reason I stopped
using connect, and instead use the Jaws scripts with the regular skype app.
I know it may seem as if I say one thing and say another, but this is an
example of why I said I see the point of apps, for times like these. Again,
what you said about waiting for an upgrade, Connect falls now into that
category, and unless I want to use Jaws with skype, Jaws is my other option
since again, there's no more app updates for skype.
-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Smith
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 11:49 AM
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: A Feature I'd Like.
If the developers of the GW Micro apps (which is what we're talking
about) suddenly go away, then don't expect any future Window-Eyes
updates. <grin> We're all part of the same team. Yes, we stopped working
on the Skype app because we decided to make GWConnect again. Why would
we continue to pour resources into keeping something updated that we
ultimately didn't want people to use? The Insert Key Layout is the
perfect example of why it should remain in app form: it's been updated
about eight times since it was released. If it were native, you'd still
be working with, and dealing with the bugs of, version 1.0.
Aaron
On 11/9/2012 12:38 PM, Patrick wrote:
I see better stability when it comes to native support rather than relying
on a script. I'm not saying wineyes never crashed when we had to upgrade
for a feature, but we wouldn't need to deal with an app crashing because
something loaded incorrectly which in turn caused errors starting the app.
I also feel that while this is true that we wouldn't need to wait for an
upgrade, a lot of the time if an app is supported by a script, if a dev
vanishes, or should I say, stops developing an app, we're left out if
something breaks in the app until you decide to finally put support in for
it. People say, well if you want it so bad make it yourself. Not everyone
has the time or brains to program an app. Many times since scripting came
out, I'm seeing a lot of, sorry, we didn't make such and such app, contact
the developer directly. Again, if that developer is gone, or not
developing anymore, we are again, left out. The Skype scripts for
instance. They were discontinued because of GW Connect. Meaning, that
unless you want skype to work with wineyes, either you use connect, or
deal with the discontinued scripts that may or may not work.
Now I don't mind apps. But I feel they are being too heavily relied on,
making it look like a volunteer effort. The insert key layout for things
like browse mode commands, comes to mind.
I just would at least like to see a focus on features being natively
supported after the apps that supported them have been made, and you,
seeing the usefulness of the app, then support it in a future upgrade. I
hope this makes sense.
Patrick
-----Original Message----- From: Aaron Smith
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 9:51 AM
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: A Feature I'd Like.
On 11/9/2012 10:31 AM, Patrick wrote:
I'd rather it be supported natively rather than relying on an external
app.
Just curious what the rational is behind this. What does it matter
whether the ones and zeros come from a Window-Eyes supported app, or
Window-Eyes itself, as long as the job is done? GW Micro app developers
work right along side of Window-Eyes developers. Ideas are often
discussed amongst the whole team before any implementation takes place.
In addition, the benefit of putting features in apps is that they can be
released and updated at any time without having to wait for an official
Window-Eyes upgrade.
Aaron
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