Wally,
I understand your frustration. Remember that no matter what level of
computing we are all at, we all are frustrated about various computer
things. 
Another thing to remember though is that sometimes you just have to keep
trudging along. While waiting for an answer, go on google and search for
things. We all try and help each other, and GW really do a great job of
helping, but remember they are a small company so it's not always easy to
answer everything all the time.
I don't know how they do as much as they do.
Regarding Apple and Microsoft trying to make things inaccessable, I don't
think they do that, but on the other hand we aren't at the top of their food
chain either, and that's the problems.
I would encourage you to keep at it, and remember Google is your Friend.
There are also some places where you can listen to podcasts geared to the
blind computer user, and also some MP3 classes or tutorials for different
programs etc.
We are all in t. It always seems that the more I know, the more I need to
learn.
Hang in there.
Bill
he same place even if we are at different levels of understanding 
-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 12:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: big thanks

Silence? I replied to your message and told you what you needed. Your
choice, but to just give up and make a general statement like none of the
screen readers are any good is a bit harsh, and untrue.

-----Original Message-----
From: wally v, yeah that's me
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 12:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: big thanks

Once again, i'd like to say a big thanks to all of you who have been of
assistance to me.
Unfortunately, because of multiple, and costly computer problems,
indifference on the part of computer users, not those on this great group
but others, and the cost of using the internet, I'll be shutting things down
at the end of the month.
Having said that i wish to make some observations.
It seems these days, there is a calous indifference on the part of many
experienced computer users toward newbies.  We're often told, "just mess
around with your computer, and you'll learn.
For some who have a natural nack for computers, this is probably good
advice.  But when you get along with computers poorly, and the frustration
level is high, more assistance is needed.  If you are an experienced user of
computers, please have a heart.  I remember the good old days back when cb
radios abounded, folks, let's bring those days back, and be more helpful,
let's can the tudes.
Furthermore, I feel that microsoft, and apple are on a campaign to make
computers more, and more inaccessible to the blind.  With the proliferation
of touch screens, blind people are having increased difficulty with using
computers, let alone home appliances.
Lastly, and most surprisingly, I'm finding even screen reader manufacturers
to be indifferent.
I attempted to contact gw micro regarding their webinars in one respect.
Generally, I found the webinars themselves to be the best i've ever seen.
But suddenly, i came to a roadblock.  I had no knowledge of pdf's, what i
needed to read them, and how to use the software.  Attempts to obtain
information were met with silence.  It is my conclusion that help is not
forthcoming.
I also observe as a list member that everyone is having trouble with their
screen readers.  This leads me to believe that none of them are any good.
Therefore, i'm getting myself out of this whole mess.  Thanks.
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