how about trying insert m to toggle the mute status?
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Curtis Delzer
  To: Stephen Clower
  Cc: gw-info
  Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 12:07 PM
  Subject: Re: major problem with Window-eyes? or . . .


  Well, yes, and I've done that and it was not the problem. wow, as I said 
"major problem with Window-eyes or . . ., and the or .. . . is the case here. 
egg on my face, sort of, though this is going to definitely potentially help 
someone.

  In windows 7 there is a "volume mixer," and within that volume mixer, 
depending on which sound devices are running it shows volumes and controls for 
those devices. Suppose you have window-eyes running with eloquence and someone 
mutes the control within volume mixer for window eyes, and then unloads window 
eyes.  Whenever window eyes loads any internal synthesizer such as eloquence, 
DEC talk, vocalizer, it wouldn't be heard since the "master volume" for window 
eyes itself was muted, but not the master volume for the system itself so other 
systems could access the realtech sound card without issue.
  and, if window eyes runs using an external synthesizer such as my USB triple 
talk, there is no item in the volume mixer to show.
  If you cannot run window eyes eloquence in order to un mute the synthesizer 
since it won't show in that dialog unless eloquence or another "window-eyes" 
synthesizer is running, how then to un mute it?
  I used NVDA and found that window eyes was muted within "master volume 
mixer," and VUALA, un mute button push and speech, works, again.  I am about to 
call Aaron and let him know since it may be a concern to tech support to know 
that within windows 7 there is more than one "mute" button possible, and if the 
master volume mixers "mute" button for window eyes is pushed, and the window 
dismissed, how is someone without another screen reader to know how to fix it 
since window eyes running an external synthesizer would not display anything in 
that master volume mixer at all. :) I think that if, there is a way, that "un 
mute" facility in a script could call a potential "volume mixer" mute button 
concerning window eyes as well as the mute for all sounds in master volume for 
the sound card.
  Those settings in "master volume mixer" are saved immediately without prompt, 
and the dialog dismissed with the escape key.
  Again, this is a "realtech" sound card, a quite common one built into many a 
mother board.


  Curtis Delzer.
  HS.

  K 6 V F O
  San Bernardino, CA.

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  skype: curtis1014




  At 05:53 AM 12/10/12, Stephen Clower wrote:

    Curtis,

    Do you know if anything else has taken over control of your sound card? We 
have seen some cases where opening a program that used ASIO drivers could keep 
traditional WDM-based audio from being heard. Is it possible to temporarily 
take VAC out of the mix, as it were?

    Steve



    On 12/8/2012 11:57 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

      Hi all!  ever since installing the first beta of WE 8, I have issues
      regarding using any SAPI voice, but didn't think much of it until I lost
      the ability to use both Dec_Access32 (for window-eyes) and Eloquence.
      Yes, that is Eloquence for window-eyes also now will not talk.  I think
      it is something with my computer and it's ports, but don't know where to
      adjust it since I've tried changing the port for the DEC and Eloquence
      while using another screen reader to read the window-eyes combo box for
      sound cards, to no avail.
      Any ideas at all? I am stumped;  have changed my "speakers" setting in
      windows 7 and changed it back, (while using my USB triple talk which is
      the only synthesizer right now that I can hear using Window-Eyes 8.  All
      other systems on my computer will use my speakers correctly, but
      Window-Eyes using any synthesizer other than my triple talk, is silent,
      though I hear the ascending beeps for "revert, or keep."
      THANKS! for Ideas, and I am hoping for a Saturday morning geek to say,
      or tap me on the shoulder, and give me the magic elixir!
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