Reading by paragraphs in Firefox

Sun, 03 Mar 2013 23:49:37 -0800

Hi everyone, sorry I haven't posted in a while, my internet was down for a time but thankfully it's now back up and operating normally. Anyway, regarding what Warren Logan mentioned about reading by paragraphs in Firefox, unfortunately, Window-eyes hasn't ever been able to do that as far as I know, and I've been using both Window-eyes and Firefox since Firefox was way back on version 3 point whatever. Furthermore, I expect if we were to ask the tech support department over at Gw Micro, they'd most likely just Blaim the Mozilla foundation's coders, and say something like that's already been reported, we know we know, we'll look in to it, sit tight. That seems to be the typical tech support response from Gw Micro, in my case at least anyway. Why just last week I called them up and asked if there was any way to fix the Thunderbird issue I was having where some of the headers of my email messages would disappear, or rearrange themselves for no apparent reason. I was told it's a Mozilla issue, and the only known workaround is to create a new Thunderbird profile. To be fair, I was provided with the steps to do that, but I mean create a new Thunderbird profile? Really? Window-eyes can't just be developed to a point that it just works with Thunderbird natively? All things considered, to me that kind of tech support and program behavior makes the purchase price of Window-eyes seem somewhat wasteful, and also somewhat ridiculous. I realize I do right now, but I'm honestly not trying to come off as being overly negative with respect to Window-eyes. There are lots of good things that I like about it, such as the ability to create apps using standardized programming languages, the fact that Window-eyes was the first to support interacting with flash controls and the first screen reader to provide access to PDF documents. However, it's exactly those kinds of innovative features and responses that I think have lead me to set the bar so high for Gw Micro. Well, that and what their competition is doing with Jaws. I work professionally with Jaws every day on the job, and I wouldn't say for a minute that Window-eyes trumps Jaws. For me, even when I was working as an adaptive technology instructor, when I'd sit down with people and explain screen readers it was always more of a Coke Pepsi, Chevy Ford, Burger King McDonald's type discussion. In both my personal and professional opinion, Window-eyes and Jaws are both exceptional programs, they both have points where they excel, and other points where each of them could improve. To get back on track with the subject header of this message, ha ha, I think it's annoying that we can't read by paragraphs in Firefox too, but I'm not holding out hope for Gw Micro to really do anything about it for quite some time. The pervasive connotation (at least to me) is that they've got bigger fish to fry so to speak. 

Respectfully submitted,

Brandon Dean Miller



On 3/3/2013 9:00 PM, GW Micro Product Discussion Listserv wrote:

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#1
Subject: Re: search box
From: "Peter Beasley" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 10:01:26 -0000

Doesn't do anything for me either. In my case, control K takes me into AOL
and alt down arrow does absolutely nothing.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <[email protected]>
To: "Thomas N. Chan" <[email protected]>; "'gw-info'"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: search box



HMM, well.
I open Firefox.
Hit Ctrl-K, and immediately Google Search loads.
I try to hit Alt-Down, but that gives me absolutely no reaction.

So, apparently, there might be a setting somewhare for getting to change
the search provider. As I said, Ctrl-K doesn't even leave me the chance of
doing anything, before the Google page loads.

Firefox should be up-to-date, since I updated it only a couple of hours
ago.

Any ideas, of what setting might need to be changed, or if I am missing
out somewhere in the steps outlined below?


----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas N. Chan" <[email protected]>
To: "'gw-info'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 9:33 PM
Subject: RE: search box



All you need to do to change that is, hit ctrl - k
Alt - down arrow and find  manage search engine.
It works for the latest version of firefox 19 and in fact, it work for a
while now.


--------------------
regards
Thomas N. Chan
-----Original Message-----
From: Brice Mijares [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, 2 March 2013 10:42 PM
To: gw-info
Subject: search box

At one time in firefox you could hit control K and Google would be the
default search engine. And  if I remember correctly by hitting alt down
arrow  you could rotor through different search engine in the list. I
don't
know how this  Bing became my default search engine. I've checked in
programs and features to remove it, but it's not listed. It's not listed
in
firefox add on's either. Essentially I need  to know how I can get
accessible Google to open when I hit control K instead of Bing.


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#2
Subject: Re: search box
From: Chris H <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2013 11:59:41 +0000

Yes! Go to view, toolbars, navigation bar. Without this it just opens
whatever search engine Firefox is set to use, and not a separate search box.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 02/03/2013 22:58, David wrote:

HMM, well.
I open Firefox.
Hit Ctrl-K, and immediately Google Search loads.
I try to hit Alt-Down, but that gives me absolutely no reaction.

So, apparently, there might be a setting somewhare for getting to change
the search provider. As I said, Ctrl-K doesn't even leave me the chance
of doing anything, before the Google page loads.

Firefox should be up-to-date, since I updated it only a couple of hours
ago.

Any ideas, of what setting might need to be changed, or if I am missing
out somewhere in the steps outlined below?


----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas N. Chan"
<[email protected]>
To: "'gw-info'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 9:33 PM
Subject: RE: search box



All you need to do to change that is, hit ctrl - k
Alt - down arrow and find  manage search engine.
It works for the latest version of firefox 19 and in fact, it work for a
while now.


--------------------
regards
Thomas N. Chan
-----Original Message-----
From: Brice Mijares [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, 2 March 2013 10:42 PM
To: gw-info
Subject: search box

At one time in firefox you could hit control K and Google would be the
default search engine. And  if I remember correctly by hitting alt down
arrow  you could rotor through different search engine in the list. I
don't
know how this  Bing became my default search engine. I've checked in
programs and features to remove it, but it's not listed. It's not
listed in
firefox add on's either. Essentially I need  to know how I can get
accessible Google to open when I hit control K instead of Bing.


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#3
Subject: Re: search box
From: "Peter Beasley" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 12:14:52 -0000

Thanks! That sorted it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris H" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: search box



Yes! Go to view, toolbars, navigation bar. Without this it just opens
whatever search engine Firefox is set to use, and not a separate search
box.


Christopher Hallsworth

On 02/03/2013 22:58, David wrote:

HMM, well.
I open Firefox.
Hit Ctrl-K, and immediately Google Search loads.
I try to hit Alt-Down, but that gives me absolutely no reaction.

So, apparently, there might be a setting somewhare for getting to change
the search provider. As I said, Ctrl-K doesn't even leave me the chance
of doing anything, before the Google page loads.

Firefox should be up-to-date, since I updated it only a couple of hours
ago.

Any ideas, of what setting might need to be changed, or if I am missing
out somewhere in the steps outlined below?


----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas N. Chan"
<[email protected]>
To: "'gw-info'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 9:33 PM
Subject: RE: search box



All you need to do to change that is, hit ctrl - k
Alt - down arrow and find  manage search engine.
It works for the latest version of firefox 19 and in fact, it work for a
while now.


--------------------
regards
Thomas N. Chan
-----Original Message-----
From: Brice Mijares [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, 2 March 2013 10:42 PM
To: gw-info
Subject: search box

At one time in firefox you could hit control K and Google would be the
default search engine. And  if I remember correctly by hitting alt down
arrow  you could rotor through different search engine in the list. I
don't
know how this  Bing became my default search engine. I've checked in
programs and features to remove it, but it's not listed. It's not
listed in
firefox add on's either. Essentially I need  to know how I can get
accessible Google to open when I hit control K instead of Bing.


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#4
Subject: Firefox
From: "Michael Massey" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 05:57:12 -0700

Hi.  What are the keystrokes used to set Firefox to check for updates
automatically  using Window-eyes 8.1.0?  I am trying to learn how to use
Firefox.  For over two weeks now I have been unable to access a particular
web site using I e 9 or 10 so I tried Firefox and it allows me to access the
site in question.  I E is my preferred browser.  Thanks.


Mike M


P.S.  Thanks to those who have explained how to set a preferred search
engine in Firefox.  So far, I have been able to check for the various search
engines.  .



#5
Subject: Paragraphs in Firefox
From: "Warren Logan" <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 07:13:36 -0600

Hello, I am using the latest Window-eyes and firefox version along with the
firefox script installed. I still can't move through a webpage via
paragraphs. This has been reported before back in the 8.0 beta testing
cycle. I was just  curious as to why this issue hasn't been fixed yet and If
this issue being looked in to? Thanks in advance,
Warren 

#6
Subject: Seika Trans Braille 40 and Window-Eyes 8.1: how to get them talking to 
one another?
From: Katherine Moss <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 16:10:04 +0000

Hello there all,
I'm sorry to bug you, but I'm trying to get this to work, and I cannot seem to. 
 I have an older, but still working Seika Trans Braille 40 display, and I have 
tinkered and tinkered with it to no avail with Window-Eyes.  I have done the 
following:
Plugged in the display at startup after installing Window-Eyes
Selected Seika from the list of available displays in the devices branch of the 
settings tree
Set the port to the USB connection; (USB in the list of available connections)
Restarted Window-Eyes and then unplugged the display
Reconnected the display and restarted Window-Eyes with nothing seeming to 
become active in braille
So far, nothing's working
Before I did any of these things, I installed the latest driver on the Seika 
web site (version 6. Something).  All I know is that it was the latest driver 
available on the downloads page of the site; it didn't say anything about a 
specific screen reader.  It looked generic, and someone told me that it acted 
differently than the usual driver for JAWS does, but I think that now they are 
in one driver file.  If someone knows anything about getting this model working 
with Window-Eyes 8, I would be more than grateful!

#7
Subject: Re: Firefox with answer
From: manny <[email protected]>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 08:27:38 -1000
Reply-To: [email protected]

Hi Michael,
In firefox
alt t
arrow up to options and enter
if you hear general
arrow left to advance then tab once
and arrow right 3 times to update
then tab once and arrow down to select the type of update you want
then tab to check other choices and then tab to OK and enter
Good luck, Manny
checkout my stand-up comedy performance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75fbevlz10g
computer specifications: Window Eyes 8 Dell xps420 with 8 gb memory c p
u: Intel q6600 quad core dual boot between Windows 7 64-bit and windows
8 64 bit all software and drivers are up to date

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