Hi, Marc.  Well explained.  In contrast, my Dell Latitude E6530 works the 
opposite way:  You hold down the FN key in combination with the F1-F12 keys for 
SPECIAL FUNCTIONS such as screen brightness, turning the touchpad on or off, 
ans so on.  This setup works well on a laptop.  I would suggest that when 
selecting a laptop, one ask the question about the function keys.  Also, you 
might want to ask someone in pre-sales or tech support about this before you 
make a purchasing decision.  Also, can the onboard software be reconfigured to 
do the opposite of what it's doing now?  Just my thoughts.--Matt.





>>> "Marc Solomon" <[email protected]> 7/10/2013 8:50 AM >>>
Hi Kenneth,



I just had the opportunity to work with one of our customers who recently
purchased an HP Ultrabook running Windows 8.  The keyboard layout,
specifically the function keys on the keyboard are probably very similar to
yours based on the information you provided in your message.  The problem
you are running into is related to the fact that F1-F12 are no longer the
primary function of the keys located on the top row of your keyboard.
Instead, HP has designed the keyboard so that these keys perform other
functions such as controlling the brightness of the screen and configuring
the projector options in Windows.  So, if you press the "F2" key when a file
is selected, you are not going to be able to rename the file (as the F2
command should allow you to do) but instead will decrease the brightness of
your screen.  If you want to be able to access a specific function key (e.g.
F2, F4, etc.), you will have to press and hold down the Function key and
then press F2, F4 or whatever function key on the top row of keys you are
trying to use.  This is a major inconvenience for screen access users but
sadly I am seeing this type of keyboard design on a lot of newer laptops
especially from HP.  One piece of good news is that I was able to press
Alt-F4 and the computer I was working on still recognized this as the
Windows Close command.  I wouldn't have expected it to work but for some
reason this combination does work as it has in the past.  There might be a
way to turn all of this off by uninstalling all of the HP related software
on the computer but I can't guarantee that will solve the problem.  For
others on the list, this is one example of why it is so important to make
sure the portable computer you are going to buy has a keyboard that will
meet your needs before you make the investment.   You can always connect a
full size USB keyboard to work around this problem but that won't always be
an option when you are using your computer on the go.



Thanks,

Marc

Subject: a question about laptop keyboards

From: Kenneth T Son <[email protected]>

Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 07:43:03 -0400



Hello.

I have an hp notebook computer and some of the function keys apparently

have different assignments than what they are supposed to do when

activated. Also I can not change window eyes voices with the control and

alt and arrow keys.

So I assume the set up in this computer uses those keys for something.

I can press f4 and try to play a goldwave file loaded into gold wave and

I get some kind of a menu that pops up saying projector options.

Some or I should say most of the function keys do not work properly and

again I can't change voices with the assigned window eyes keys.

How do I turn all of this stuff off so I will have a regular keyboard again?

Kenneth Son.




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