I have absolutely no interest in Facebook, I have no interest in Socialize. Can you guess how many times I have hit the delete key since this product was announced. Not only would I love to ask people to drop that topic on the main list. I would love if there was a specific, separate list for the topic so I don't have to mess with all of those posts day after day. But despite how absolutely sick I get of some of the long and drawn out discussions about that product, I never post a single complaint. Why? Because it is on topic and it would not be reasonable for me to tell others to drop it just because I am not interested in it.
It would be completely different if the discussion was on topic and some comment would be appropriate if the discussion was wandering completely off topic, but as long as the discussion is about a GW Micro product in any way, shape or form, it remains on topic.
There is absolutely no reason you shouldn't continue posting. Everybody, including me, sometimes make comment without realizing we might be mistaken or otherwise in error. It is not a personal attack for someone to point this out and I meant nothing negative about it. I in no way was implying you are somehow a bad person or a bad list member. In fact I know that you often make great contributions to the list. I was simply pointing out that the discussion was appropriate to the list and thus members should not be pushed to stop it as long as it remained on topic.
Regards, Chris-----Original Message----- From: Duyahn Walker
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 11:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Using the delete key was Re: Window-eyes on a Microsoft Tablet Really? I was out of line? Ok. Let's say I really got tired of the fact that this subject in this thread kept coming up. Let's say i was really nasty about it. Now, obviously, one of two things would happen. I would either get warned about my conduct, or, i would be removed from the list because of how offensive I was. I will not do any of that since it does not get me friends. It just makes me look stupid if I were to act in this manner. So, I will now just politely say, I will not ask or say anything else on this list. Seems that is the best course of action. God bless Duyahn----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" <[email protected]>
To: "Rod Hutton" <[email protected]>; "Duyahn Walker" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 12:20 PM Subject: Using the delete key was Re: Window-eyes on a Microsoft Tablet
While Duyahn's request was polite, it is really out of line, at lest as far as the main discussion goes. The main topic was and is on topic for the list, being a discussion relevant to Window Eyes. It may become tiring for people not interested in such a popular topic to continue deleting posts day after day, but people need to remember that 'I'm not interested in this topic', 'my interest in this topic has ended', and other such personal feelings and opinions do not equal off topic. Sorry, but the definition of off topic is pretty specific and frankly, it is out of line for even a moderator to shut down an on topic discussion. I can't count the number of threads I am sick of that I continue to delete day after day from various lists, but that is the nature of lists. This isn't meant as an admonishment or anything, when a widely popular topic that one isn't interested in continues for a long time it can be easy to get sick of it and lose track of whether or not the discussion is on topic. The popularity of this discussion is an indication of the membership's interest in Windows tablets and touch support. This means that the topic, even when this discussion peters out, is not going anywhere and members who are not interested should brace themselves for it to come back from time to time.If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it.On the wandering of the discussion, we all offend in this area I think, I know I often forget, but if possible one should always try to remember when shifting to a side discussion to alter the subject line to reflect both the new topic and the fact that it branched from another topic. This allows folks to decide if they are interested in reading the new topic or if they want to skip the tangent.Regards, Chris-----Original Message----- From: Rod HuttonSent: Friday, January 10, 2014 8:50 AM To: Duyahn Walker ; [email protected] Subject: Re: Window-eyes on a Microsoft Tablet Hi Duyahn, Your point is legit, but if you actually delve into the message you will find that they're not talking about the subject line anymore. I know it takes time, but if you don't want to be fooled by the subject lines, you have to read every message. smile hth, Rod On 1/10/14 1:14 AM, Duyahn Walker wrote:Can we please put this subject to rest? Hitting the delete key for over a week now is getting quite annoying and old. And, I am asking quite nicely.If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it.----- Original Message ----- From: "Sky Mundell" <[email protected]> To: "'Tom Kingston'" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 12:01 AM Subject: RE: Window-eyes on a Microsoft TabletHi Tom, I do apologize. I thought it was we, not the plugin. Its funny how nvda, jaws, and system access seem to work well with it-----Original Message----- From: Tom Kingston [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 9:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Window-eyes on a Microsoft TabletJust a side note regarding ReaAccess. Window-Eyes is not causing it to crash. I decompiled ReaAccess and the programmer ignorantly hard coded the path (at that time) to Window-Eyes instead of using the environment variable that any programmer with half a brain would have known enough to use, or at least included the proper error checking and used an alternative method, such as searching. And because he's trying to access an interface that does not exist and he hasn't even checked to see if it exists ReaAccess blows up.And be it that he's abandoned the project there is nothing that can be done other than someone else rewriting ReaAccess.Regards, Tom On 1/10/2014 12:35 AM, Sky Mundell wrote:If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it.Hello Jim, I have to agree with you. You do not have to buy another licence just to run we, unlike JAWS. I had that problem too, and I wanted to go to WE, but the problem was that at that time we were concerned that it would not work with the stuff I wanted. I want to be a audio engineer as I am a blind musician, and I am using Sonar with CakeTalking from dancing dots, however as I said I am now using reaperwith ReaAccess, though We causes it to crash. So, for my job, I'll have to push back a bit.-----Original Message----- From: Jim Grimsby JR. [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 1:44 PM To: 'josh n rivera' Cc: [email protected] Subject: RE: Window-eyes on a Microsoft Tablet Windows pro is the most popular version of windows 8.1. it is the version of windows that most of us windows 8 users are running on our desktops. Another wonderful point in favor of window-eyes no matter what version of windows you are running window-eyes will work withit. you buy window-eyes no price change just because you want to run pro verces home.Hth -----Original Message----- From: josh n rivera [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 1:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Window-eyes on a Microsoft Tablet Pardon my asking, Jim, but what is windows pro? On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 13:01:02 -0800 "Jim Grimsby JR." <[email protected]> writes:Well windows pro is what I am using to write this message. While I don't have window-eyes loaded right now I do use it on this pc quite a lot. When not if but when Microsoft does what they have to do to stay alive there will be nothing for gw micro to do accept maybe add support for a few new programs. No big deal. It is going to happen it has to. -----Original Message----- From: Pat Ferguson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 12:55 PM To: Jim Grimsby JR. Subject: RE: Window-eyes on a Microsoft Tablet You are correct about the future of PC's. I still have my Windows 7 Desktop computer running Window-Eyes 8.0.4 and it's not a huge desktop, either. I wanted a laptop, but I like the idea of a tablet more and more, as long as I could have a Bluetooth keyboard and the loving Window-Eyes. I'm still using my old Motorola Q9C cell phone with Mobile Speak on it. lol. It will be great if Microsoft makes Windows Pro accessible and if Window-Eyes can adapt to that. I do also love the idea of using a keyboard or touch screen. Great thoughts, and very true ones. <smile> Thanks much. Many Blessings, Pat Ferguson "I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me." Phillippians 4:13. At 02:36 PM 1/7/2014, you wrote:Well pat there is hope then. Gw micro will add touch. They haveto.Then windows pro will be coming soon to a phone near you. It hasto.Microsoft has two choices at this point. Get in to the phone withprowhere there are real advantages or go and become big blue and do btob. pc sells will hit rock bottom this year and Microsoft knows it.lookat what acer and del are doing right now. They know it to and theyarescrambleing to get in to the mobile world in a new way. Microsofthasno plans to upgraid windows phone so they have to do something. Itwill be windows pro on a phone and windows rt on a phone. We of course will want windows pro. Then we will have window-eyes withtouchsupport and all that great keyboard support from windows on ourphonesusing the Bluetooth keyboard. Best of both worlds if you ask me.Moreand more windows apps will become accessable the new laws willforceMicrosoft to push for this and you won't be living in the walledgardenthat is IOS and you will have choices on what access tech you use unlike on Iphone or android. As you know I have been quite vocal onandroid accessability not that it is bad it is ok. It needs a lotofhelp though. The nice thing about a windows pro phone is this.youdon't have to choose between android and windows. Just run themdool boot and have them both. It will be all about choice. Bring it on I say.-----Original Message----- From: Pat Ferguson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 11:56 AM To: David Plumlee Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Window-eyes on a Microsoft Tablet I had an Android tablet for about 3 weeks in December, and Iwouldn'ttrade a keyboard with a laptop or any computer. The touch screen jestures for the Android were not that great. I sent the tabletback.It was a lesson learned. No tablets for me with out a keyboard. I do think the IOS is better on the Jestures, however. I know someone who has a Windows Tablet running Window-Eyes with akeyboard.I wouldn't mind that. Thanks much. Many Blessings, Pat Ferguson "I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me."Phillippians 4:13.At 11:20 PM 1/6/2014, you wrote:I must admit at the outset a bias on my part: I am a confirmedknobfreak at age 69. I have also operated the Apple IPhone with allofits gestures and touch operations; and for my part, nothing beatsagood solid mechanical keyboard with real buttons that you canpressto reliably get what you want! Perhaps touch screens will becomemorereliable as they improve; but I don't think I'd want to use atabletcomputer as long as I could have something with real buttons to operate. Granted, the modern PC has no knobs; but the buttons generally carry the same reliability that you can get from knobsthatyouturn.But for those who want touch, gestures, and all that, I sincerelyhope that Window-Eyes can someday soon run on such equipment.For mypart, though, give me knobs and buttons! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris H" <[email protected]> To: "Kevin Huber" <[email protected]>; "gw-info" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 2:49 PM Subject: Re: Window-eyes on a Microsoft TabletHi probably not, Window-Eyes does not work with touch currently. Regards Chris On 06/01/2014 19:58, Kevin Huber wrote:Hi: Can anyone tell me if Window-eyes 8 works on one of thoseMicrosoftWindows 8 tablets? If so, which tablets does Window-eyes workwithand which ones does it not work with? Kevin Huber If you reply to this message it will be delivered to theoriginalsender only. 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If your reply would benefit others on the list andyourmessage is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending yourmessage to [email protected] so the entire list will receiveit.GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo.Youcan manage your list subscription athttp://www.gwmicro.com/listserv.Thanks much. Many Blessings, Pat Ferguson "I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me."Phillippians 4:13.If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list andyourmessage is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. Youcanmanage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv.Thanks much. Many Blessings, Pat Ferguson "I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me." Phillippians 4:13. 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