$8  per month might be 4 or more times of their currency of another country,
do you realise that kind of costing?
And beside the point, if that computer don't or not meant for office work,
only surfing of the internet, why install office or even playing of games
etc?

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regards
Thomas N. Chan 
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Grimsby JR. [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Sunday, 19 January 2014 7:05 AM
To: 'Thomas N. Chan'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Some thoughts on reactions to the GWMicro and Microsoft
partnership:

Well here is what I don't understand.  With window-eyes and the spell check
script you can use office to spell check any document you want.  You can
spell check in notepad.  You can spell check in skype.  Basicly any where.
I just don't see a blind person not needing some form of office tool. Not
only that but as I said office comes with many computers.  And your only
talking about a little over 8 bucks a month for a subscription.  Ah well.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas N. Chan [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 10:50 AM
To: GW Micro (List)
Subject: RE: Some thoughts on reactions to the GWMicro and Microsoft
partnership:

That's one reason why some of the folks I know move to either apple or nvda.
Why pay for office when they have not intention to use them.


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regards
Thomas N. Chan 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Grimsby JR. [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, 18 January 2014 12:36 AM
To: 'Thomas N. Chan'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Some thoughts on reactions to the GWMicro and Microsoft
partnership:

Your points are valid meaning that they might not need or want office.
How-ever it would still be cheeper to get office and not use it, then to get
the retail version of window-eyes.  so your argument  about cost doesn't
really apply  here.  If they can't afford office they can't afford the full
version of window-eyes either.  
Hth 

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas N. Chan [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 1:08 PM
To: 'gwmicro'
Subject: RE: Some thoughts on reactions to the GWMicro and Microsoft
partnership:

There's this issue you must consider.
People like myself, I can't apply to this scheme for a reason. I manages my
own server remotely and I don't have office installed on it.
Server are just not there to install such application like office for users
or someone to use. They are just, server.
If someone don't have office installed, they also as well, can't apply to
this scheme.

What if those user just use openoffice or just wordpad to type in documents
and nothing else? They can't afford or might not be able to bring or dig out
that kind of money just to buy office. What's $99 in US, might be 10 or more
times in their currency.

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regards
Thomas N. Chan
-----Original Message-----
From: David [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, 15 January 2014 8:08 AM
To: [email protected]; Don H; Chris H; gwmicro
Subject: Re: Some thoughts on reactions to the GWMicro and Microsoft
partnership:

Well, Aaron,
according to the budget example mentioned, buying an Office, paying you
support and even wanting some extra voices, I would end up with little as
350 dollars or so. Now, if I am correct, the paid-for version of WE is
something like 800 dollars. What am I missing in the 350 dollar go? If
nothing, what then would call for anyone to pay you the 800 dollars? 
Something is missing in your small print. :)

BTW, please will you in the future make sure of proper translations. Your
website did come up in a "Translated" version, in my locale language. Yet,
the translated version looked as if you had been sponsoring Google's
translator. It is simply not good enough, and specially when it comes to the

legal stuff in the FAQ. Had it not been due to me being used to bad
translations from electronic suppliers, I would have a very hard time in
understanding any of the answers. Just to give you one example of the
badness, it was talking about the Eloquence synthesizer. It had translated
it into the "well-spoken synthesizer". A user that would not exactly have
known that the word eloquence means something like well-spoken, would never
be able to know what synthesizer you were talking about in the translated
version. Whatever service you have called for when comes to the translation,

have it turned off in the future, and get real people who know what they are

doing and talking about, perform your documents. Not even for a freeware
product, this translation thing was anything good enough. Sorry, but that is

the facts. :)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Smith" <[email protected]>
To: "Don H" <[email protected]>; "Chris H" <[email protected]>;
"gwmicro" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: Some thoughts on reactions to the GWMicro and Microsoft
partnership:


> I'm not trying to say, "Don't give us money," but you don't have to 
> purchase support or additional synthesizers. If you're technical 
> enough to

> solve your own problems, and are fine with the MS or eSpeak voices, 
> you don't pay anything for Window-Eyes itself.
>
> Aaron
>
> On 1/14/2014 3:47 PM, Don H wrote:
>> OK so if I understand it correctly you buy a copy of Microsoft office 
>> for

>> as little as $125, if desired purchase either of two available tech 
>> support plans for no more than $99 and buy Vocalizer voices for less 
>> than

>> $100 and you now have a free version of WE that is just like having a 
>> retail copy for a lot less.  Sounds great if the plan still sustains 
>> GW as a viable company. GW has always been a great company and I 
>> really really hope it remains just that.
>>
>> On 1/14/2014 2:38 PM, Chris H wrote:
>>> I see in the FAQ that technical support is not an option if you take 
>>> advantage of this offer, remember this is going by the FAQ and not 
>>> something I am making up, they say this is one of many benefits of 
>>> purchasing Window-Eyes from Gw themselves.
>>>
>>> Regards Chris
>>>
>>> On 14/01/2014 20:33, Solomon Mekonnen wrote:
>>>> Listen guys and Gals!
>>>> Let cool minds prevail.
>>>> The business aspect of the deal should not concern the consumer 
>>>> unless we can show a verifiable disadvantage to the user.
>>>> However, there are a few relevant questions that should be answered:
>>>> 1.      How about all prepaid and yet unused SMA privileges?
>>>> 2.      Does the partnership mean software integration, or, does
>>>> WindowEyes maintain its independence?
>>>> 3.      If integration, would the integration of WindowEyes with
>>>> Microsoft cause WindowEyes to suffer from the vulnerabilities of 
>>>> Microsoft Office products? Is GWMicro still committed to assuring 
>>>> the stability of WindowEyes we have enjoyed so far?
>>>> 4.      Does the consumer continue to receive tech-support from GWMicro
>>>> or will Microsoft provide tech-support?
>>>> 5.      If the latter, Does Microsoft have enough tech-support staff 
>>>> who
>>>> are familiar with, not only the technical details of WindowEyes, 
>>>> but also and more importantly the peculiar nature of the needs of 
>>>> the clientele of GWMicro and similar vendors or providers?
>>>> 6.      Do we still have the option of procuring WindowEyes without
>>>> necessarily associating ourselves with Microsoft Office products?
>>>>
>>>> Please let us discuss and seek answers for important questions like 
>>>> these instead of trying to meddle in the business of two 
>>>> independent and legal entities.
>>>>
>>>> Don't forget, if we don't like it, we don't have to get it.
>>>>
>>>> Solomon.
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