Brendon: So what you are saying is, This Word function is broken, or at least doesn't act the way you want it to.
Try this: Follow your steps below. During step 3, listen closely. The first time you hit <ENTER> you will hear "Next search result, button;" The second time you hit <ENTER> you will hear "Next search result." Note the absence of the word "Button" after the second <ENTER> is hit. This might mean that the button is not gaining focus. I'm not so sure this is broken. AS Tom mentioned, browsing your search results will eliminate the need to repeatedly activate the "next search result" button. It may be that Microsoft isn't expecting that you would need to activate the button again; They're expecting you to browse your results. The list of results give you context so you have a good idea where in the document the string/word occurs. When you find the result you desire, just hit <ENTER> and "vois la" you are there. Of course in your example there is no real context, but in real life who would create a document that contains only one word repeated numerous times? Out of curiosity, how do you know how many times you need to hit the "Next search result" button to find what you are looking for? If you get the very same "problem" behavior with all three screen readers, it may not be a problem with the screen readers. Just a friendly observation: You appear to have your default importance level set to "high." Unless you have a position of authority over those to whom you are sending your messages, you shouldn't as a rule decide that your messages are more important than others'. HTH. -----Original Message----- From: Brendon Donohue [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 7:28 PM To: 'Richard G Applegate' Cc: [email protected] Subject: RE: The Find Command In Microsoft Office 2010 Does Not Work For Me. Please Help Importance: High Richard, This is incorrect, the search dialog in Word 2010 is broken in Window Eyes, JAWS and NVDA. See information below explaining this. Thank you for the Outlook search information though. Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. This post was about the Word search dialog box not working. I have confirmed that this is not working with the latest version of Window eyes. 1. Open a word document and type in fore lines of text of the same thing, I type in my name four times. 2. Then I move to the top of my document and then I press control+F to bring the find dialog box up and type in the word I want to search for. 3. Then press enter in window eyes says next search result and it repeats this back to me fine, I press enter again, and Window Eyes repeats it back to me again, I press enter for the third time and Window Eyes doesn't say anything and stops tracking. JAWS doesn't speak the search results as you move to them, with JAWS it is to say the first line of the search result as you move onto them. This happens after leaving JAWS on a system for more than 5 Hours. Also the tracking in JAWS in a word document is really bad. The latest version of NVDA doesn't even speak the search results as you find them. Thank you. Brendon Donohue. I have worked with Freedom Scientific over the last couple of years regarding this dialog box not working and I have razed this with GW and NVAccess but nothing has happened regarding this dialog yet. Thank you. Brendon Donohue. -----Original Message----- From: Richard G Applegate [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, 16 February 2014 12:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: The Find Command In Microsoft Office 2010 Does Not Work For Me. Please Help To respond to Brendon's message: The CTRL-f "Find" command is not broken in Window-Eyes, NVDA or JAWS; CTRL-f is simply not the keystroke for "find" in Outlook 2010. CTRL-f in Outlook 2010 is the "Forward" command. This is not the fault of any of the screen reader developers; it is simply a design decision made by Microsoft. CTRL-f for "Find" in general is a Windows command, not a Window-Eyes/JAWS/NVDA command. Depending on which type of search you wish to perform in Outlook, the instructions are different. If you wish to search the entire screen for a specific string of characters: Move the mouse to the top left of the screen and hit <CTRL-SHIFT-f>; Type the desired character string in the edit box provided and hit <ENTER>. If the desired string is found, Window-Eyes will notify you and move the mouse to the found string. Use the mouse commands to read/click if so desired. To repeat the search, use <INSERT-f>. It should be noted that this search only looks at what is currently visible on the screen. If you want to find all messages within the current mailbox which contain a specified string of characters: Use the search facility built into Outlook. This can usually be found by Tabbing forward from the list of messages until you hear "Search query rich edit." This is an Edit box. Type the desired string and hit <ENTER>. Outlook will search the current mailbox for all messages containing the desired string. Unfortunately, I don't believe there is any audible indicator to let you know the search is finished. Shift-Tab back to the list of messages. This list will show all of the messages, within the currently selected mailbox, containing the string for which you searched. If there were no messages found, this list will be empty. Messages not containing the desired string will not be shown. When finished, simply hit <ESCAPE> to display all messages in the currently selected mailbox. This command will search the text contained in all messages in the currently selected mailbox, including messages that may not be visible on the screen. If you're trying to find a string of text within the current message: Move to the top of the message and hit CTRL-SHIFT-f. Again type the desired string in the edit box and hit <Enter>. If found, Window-Eyes will let you know and move the cursor to the first matching string. . To find the next occurrence of the string, simply hit <INSERT-f>. This search is not limited to the current screen; it will search the entire current message if necessary, including any part of the message not currently visible on the screen. It works best with the Outlook Enhanced app with Message Virtualization enabled. HTH. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Kingston [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 7:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: The Find Command In Microsoft Office 2010 Does Not Work For Me. Please Help If the search term is not found you will hear either nothing or search the document and the text you entered. If it is found you will hear Next search button and be placed on that button. Pressing escape will put you on the text you searched for. But if you tab down you will be put in a list of all occurrences of the word or phrase you searched for, showing them in context. Select from that list and press enter on the one you want to go to and then press escape to go to it. If you don't see that list, Shift-Tab until you land on a set of tab controls and make sure that the Browse the results from your current search is the active tab. Hth, Tom On 2/14/2014 3:42 PM, Brendon Donohue wrote: > Wren, > > > > Thank you for your email and your question. At this time, the word 2010 find > dialog is broken with Window Eyes and doesn’t speak. At this time, this > affects all windows screen readers and none of them speak the dialog. I am > not Shaw what the issue is, but it is Shaw annoying at least. I have reported > this to GW, Freedom Scientific, and NVAccess. But none of these companies > have done anything about this as of yet. This would be really good if this > was resolved. Hint to GW! > > > > Thank you. > > > > Brendon Donohue. > > > > > > > > From: Wren Langley [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, 15 February 2014 3:06 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: The Find Command In Microsoft Office 2010 Does Not Work For > Me. Please Help > > > > Hi all, and thank you for the help. > > > > I have Microsoft Office 2010 on my computer, but I can’t get the find command > “control f” to work for me. There are a lot of buttons that I don’t know how > to use. Any and all help would be very much appreciated. I have the latest > version Of Window-Eyes. > > > > GOD BLESS, > > > > Wren > > > > > > > If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender > only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is > related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to > [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. > > GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. 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