Hi Don,
Here's a repost on this matter by Marc at GW Micro.
hth,
Rod
----- Start of repost
Hi Shannon,
Thank you for your suggestion. I will put your request for a training
on using Window-Eyes
to interact with ARIA elements on our list of future webinar topics.
This training
would be most beneficial if it was conducted after GW Micro adds full
ARIA support
to Window-Eyes. This development project is currently underway and we
appreciate
your patience waiting for these improvements to be implemented in
Window-Eyes. In
the meantime, the best way to interact with ARIA elements with
Window-Eyes is by
using the mouse pointer or by turning off Browse Mode. As another
GW-Info list member
pointed out, you will also need to use a modern web browser that
supports ARIA.
This means you will want to use the latest versions of Internet Explorer
and/or Firefox
when working with ARIA. Here are some information and suggestions on
how you can
use Window-Eyes to access the content on the Google support page you
referenced in
your email:
Google has assigned an ARIA role of "tab" to each of the email clients
listed in
the support article (i.e. iPhone, Thunderbird, Apple Mail, Outlook,
Outlook Express)
and set each tabs aria-expanded attribute to false. You can think of
each of these
email clients as tabbed folders containing additional files or
information. Until
you open the tabbed folder, you cannot see or access the contents.
Visually on the
webpage, the 5 tabs looks like a list of 5 items stacked on top of each
other and
each item has a plus symbol to the left of the item that is used to
expand it. If
you click or activate the plus symbol, the item expands and displays the
contents
or the tab item's children. The plus symbol turns into a minus symbol
that when
clicked or activated with collapse the tab and hid its children.
So, the trick here is to expand the tab you wish to read more about and
then get
Window-Eyes to read the new content. One way to expand the tab is to
find the tab
element in Browse Mode, route the mouse to the element (Insert-Numpad
Plus) and issue
a left click (Numpad Slash). You can also turn browse mode off and use
the Tab key
or arrow keys to focus the tab element in the browser and then use
Spacebar or Enter
to expand the tab. The problem with the later technique is that
Window-Eyes will
not announce the name of the tabs when you are out of Browse Mode so you
would need
to know that Outlook is the fourth tab item out of five. Once you have
expanded
the tab, you will want to redraw the screen (Insert-Backslash) so
Window-Eyes will
see the newly displayed information. You will probably be kicked back
to the top
of the page, so do a quick Window-Eyes Find for Outlook to jump back
down to the
appropriate section on the page and you will be able to read the
additional text
that is now displayed on the page.
As you can tell, this process has a number of steps and requires going
in and out
of browse mode or at least redrawing the screen. Once the enhanced ARIA
support
for Window-Eyes is added this process will be much simpler. You will be
able to
simply navigate to these tab elements on the page, press Enter to expand
them and
then down arrow to read the newly displayed text. No need to worry
about the state
of Browse Mode or redrawing the screen, it will just work!
Just as a side note, there are many other ARIA roles besides tab that
you encounter
on the web and will want to become familiar with. Here is a more
thorough list of
ARIA widget roles that can be used by web developers to create
application like controls
on their web pages:
alert
alertdialog
button
checkbox
dialog
gridcell
link
log
marquee
menuitem
menuitemcheckbox
menuitemradio
option
progressbar
radio
scrollbar
slider
spinbutton
status
tab
tabpanel
textbox
timer
tooltip
treeitem
You will be able to interact with these ARIA widgets from the keyboard
in similar
ways as to do when you encounter these types of controls in Windows and
Windows based
applications. I hope you find this information helpful.
Best Regards,
Marc
Subject: RE: major google help needed
From: "Shannon" <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 08:39:03 -0500
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Mark,
I for one would be very interested if GW would put on a training class on
the new ARIA web controls and how they work, what they mean and what to do
when we encounter them.
I think I am dealing with them and don't know what to do with them.
I am currently reading a Google article on outlook configuration and mail
folders. The text in this article says to click on the client you are
using below to learn more. Unfortunately the list below says odd things to
me and I don't know how to activate-interact with it/them. For example I
hear
Click on your client below to view our recommended configuration.
Page Tab, Iphone, Page tab, Thunderbird, list two with zero items and one
sub list,
End of list two, Page Tab, Apple Mail, Page tab, outlook, page tab,
outlook express
I can't seem to click on a single one. I have tried the space bar on the "
page tab" before each of the items I wish to look into and on the Names
directly, but that doesn't work I have tried to press enter on the same
elements and that still doesn't work. How do you interact with such items?
This is just a help article but it is not really helping since I can't get
to the specific clients I am using to learn more.
The link to this article is;
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/78892
Can you tell me about this article?
How does one using We handle it? Could a class be done on ARIA and how it
is used.
My machine specs are Win seven 64, IE 8 and WE 8.3
Thank you
Shannon
----- End of repost
On 4/02/14 2:31 PM, Don Mauck wrote:
Hello --
How well does the latest version of WE deal with WAI-ARIA. I seem to
be running into issues with certain ARIA controls such as going in and
out of "application mode," dealing with region lists and how ARIA
grids are being dealt with.
--
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