Hi Jim,

Yes, thanks for those files ... I guess maybe that email came from another
account of yours, but I remember it now as coming from James ... anyway, got
it now.

I didn't know what I was doing at all as far as audio recording.  I first
tried buying extra audio cards and a hardware mixer.  It was suggested to me
that some audio cards (but not laptops like I was using) had a sort of
built-in mixer device (which maybe you had to go into the driver and
enable), which allowed you to get an audio output feed of all the input
devices, and that this could be used to get both a microphone and output
from speech and the TeamTalk program I was using.  I never did get that to
work, probably because I was using a laptop, but others I was told had made
good recordings from multiple sources that way.

I bought a recording program called Total Recorder (very reasonable), and it
had various add-ins you could buy (and some were free).  One could be used
when recording human speech to improve the quality, and another would mix
various input sources.  I credit it for the good quality of the recordings,
and it certainly made it possible to get the mike mixed with the audio
output.

I still had some issues to be handled though:  I needed to mix just the
microphone and my window-eyes speech output together, and feed this into the
TeamTalk inputs for the classes (but not add the output from TeamTalk, which
would have caused infinite looping, or whatever the audio equivalent of
feed-back squeal is called).  I needed to hear the TeamTalk sound (have it
come through my audio card), so I couldn't just feed the output from my
audio card into TeamTalk.  So, I bought a little program called Virtual
Audio Cable (I think).  It was a little difficult to use, the documentation
isn't written by a native speaker of English and also there are places where
you have to use the mouse cursor in WE to be clear about what you're doing.
You may not need this if you just want to record the output from your audio,
but if you have to do more, it's quite a clever program.

It makes audio connections from one device to another, and gets your Windows
system to see that connection as another audio device.  You can then add
this new audio device to any mix you are creating, or just make it an input
for some other program.  You can make one audio output connect to multiple
inputs, so it can act like a mixer or splitter that way.  I had to get
creative with it because I had two programs which needed inputs, the Total
Recorder and TeamTalk, and I had multiple sources of output: the mike, the
output from TeamTalk, and the output from my audio card (which included the
speech).  It's a little hard to remember how I had to hook all this up
together, but it doesn't sound like you'll have to work this part out; I'm
only mentioning it here for any one else who may have a complicated
situation.

You'll see my last few classes turned into just podcasts (keeping a
scheduled time-slot for TeamTalk chats was just too difficult for me), and
that meant I could drop Virtual Audio Cable.  I don't even have it installed
on my current Windows 7 laptop (there are complexities with its intercepting
of audio in Windows 7 or later; I was using it under Vista at the time).

So, it comes down to I can really recommend Total Recorder and perhaps
you'll also want to buy the add-in from them which improves the recording of
speech.  They have a free add-in which auto-equalizes the volume from
multiple inputs which you may also want to use, and the ability to mix
multiple inputs (I think) is just one of its built-in capabilities (but do
look through the free add-ins in case it's done that way).  I remember all
of that being around $50.

I never did use the hardware mixer at all, or the second audio card.

Hth,

Chip

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 2:00 PM
To: Chip Orange
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Beginning App Developer Questions

Hi Chip,
Thanis for the info. I wrote to you previously from my work address
and sent you the link to the chm file that holds the MS scripting
reference for VBScript and JScript. Before I started to seriously look
at Window-eyes, I heard about the classes, and now I have found them,
and I'm listening to class 3, I think. I put them on my NLS player so
I can speed them up. I know VBScript very well, and I just need to get
familiar with Window-eyes objects and whatever else is available, but
I wanted to go through from the beginning for the review.

I just wanted to ask an off topic question, though. How did you get
yourself to sound good and get the speech to work on the recording? I
am thinking of learning to make recordings like that for the NFB
writers group.

Thanks.

Jim

On 4/12/14, Chip Orange <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> You may know this of course, but in addition to the scripting list,
there's
> an archive of a series of audio classes (and an accompanying text file of
> examples) at:
>
> https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Developers/Interactive_Classes/
>
> I hope you may find them helpful, and I'm glad to see another person
> interested in app development.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Chip
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 11:35 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Beginning App Developer Questions
>
> Hi Mark,
> Thank you. I'll google for that list.
>
> Jim
>
> On 4/12/14, Marc Solomon <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Yes, the gw-scripting list is what you are looking for.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Marc
>>
>> Jim <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>I've lerked here for a while, and noticed that there are questions
>>>about apps, but not about scripting them. Is there a different list
>>>that I should subscribe to for more technical stuff?
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>Jim
>>>
>>>--
>>>e+r=o
>>>Skype: jim.homme
>>
>
>
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