Hey Steve,
I'm not debating which browser supports HTML 5 the best. But I don't
understand why, if as you say, Firefox supports HTML 5 video natively,
why Net Bat had to install an add-on.
As I said, it's the first I've heard of such. I wrote my own test pages
using it a long time ago and it ran fine in both browsers without having
to install any add-ons. And after writing this I thought to go find
those pages and run them in both browsers. The HTML 5 audio worked fine
in both. But I'm running FF 24. Given their every other day release
schedule I'm probably 20 versions behind.
Regards,
Tom
On 10/12/2014 5:26 AM, Steve Faulkner wrote:
Hi Tom,
HTML5 is just the latest incarnation of the hyper text markup language used to write web
pages. And I thought all contemporary browsers supported it natively, or >perhaps
better said, inherently. But if Firefox needs an add-on to support it then I assume it's
the result of a decision the folks at Mozilla made. And I can't >honestly see the
sense of it other than wanting to make their browser extremely modular so you can add
and remove support for features. But again, it's a module to >add HTML5 support to
the browser.
IE 11 supports HTML5 directly. So you need no add-on for it.
These statements are incorrect. Firefox has by far the best accessibility
support for any version of HTML including HTML5 refer to
http://www.html5accessibility.com/ in contrast Internet Explorer has the worst.
Here is the implementation Implementation status for HTML5 element/attribute
accessibility mappings http://stevefaulkner.github.io/html-mapping-tests/
HTML video support in firefox is not 'add on' support, it's supported natively.
Youtube by default serves flash video, users can opt in to use of the HTML5
video support. I have opted in and am served HTML5 video.
Steve Faulkner
TPG Distinguished Accessibility Engineer
-
Co-editor HTML 5.1
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Kingston [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 12 October 2014 07:47
To: gw-info
Subject: Fwd: Re: flash and html5 with firefox.
All I can say is that Firefox is my secondary browser. So I use it very seldom.
And this is the first I've heard of an HTML5 add-on.
HTML5 is just the latest incarnation of the hyper text markup language used to
write web pages. And I thought all contemporary browsers supported it natively,
or perhaps better said, inherently. But if Firefox needs an add-on to support
it then I assume it's the result of a decision the folks at Mozilla made. And I
can't honestly see the sense of it other than wanting to make their browser
extremely modular so you can add and remove support for features. But again,
it's a module to add
. It is not a separate program like Adobe's flash player that the browser
hosts. Most modern programs have modules.
The purpose is so that your system doesn't have to load the code for everything
the program can do at start up. Modules can be loaded and unloaded or set to
load by default. The Firefox HTML5 media player module is just going to add the
code for Firefox to respond to the HTML5 media tags on a web site.
IE 11 supports HTML5 directly. So you need no add-on for it.
Regards,
Tom
On 10/12/2014 2:02 AM, net bat wrote:
i don't know about this. you say no add ons are required. i thought i
was useing html5 with firefox because there was a option on the
youtube site to use the html player. but when i look in the task
manager it was still useing the plug in container, which is the regular flash
player.
i did a google search on html5 and firefox and there was indeed a
firefox add on called all html5. once i installed this html5 was
really being used and the old flash player plug in container is now
not being used.
only time will tell if flash will still crash like it use to do.
now i wonder if i need a add on for i e 11? with windows 7?
-----Original Message----- From: Tom Kingston
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 9:48 PM
To: gw-info
Subject: Re: new release of WE expected?
Using HTML5 will cause no problems. It's not an independent player per
se, like Flash. It's a part of the HTML standard that was introduced
in version 5 that gives browsers that support HTML5 the ability to
play content directly. So any site that incorporates it will simply
work with no add-ons required. And unlike Flash it's designed to be
accessible right out of the box without manually having to code it to be so.
Hopefully it will one day be the end of Flash. But of course millions
of sites have enormous amounts of time and money wrapped up in Flash
development. And they're not all that eager to drop it even though
it's a resource hog, prone to crash, a bug-fest, and a big target for
viruses and malware.
This is at least partly why Apple dropped support for it completely
years ago on iOS devices.
Tom
On 10/11/2014 11:00 PM, net bat wrote:
wouldn't this cause a problem?
if you switch to the html5 player would this be used by all web sites
that use flash or only for youtube?
if so wouldn't you still need the w e firefox enhanced app to allow
the flash player to work.
-----Original Message----- From: Rob Hudson
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 5:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: new release of WE expected?
Or go to www.youtube.com/html5 instead of using the flash.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sky Mundell" <[email protected]>
To: "'Edward'" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 5:36 PM
Subject: RE: new release of WE expected?
Hi edward, what you need to do is go to window-eyes control panel,
with control back slash when firefox is opened, then press alt a for
apps, then press f till you hear firefox enhance, then press right
arrow, then hit enter on enable flash in browse mode. If it isn't
checked, press enter, then everything should work smoovely
-----Original Message-----
From: Edward [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 2:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: FW: new release of WE expected?
True, but I find firefox unstable on youtube.com. Flash makes
firefox and window eyes crash all the time. Do you have a fix for
this?
Thanks
Edward
-----Original Message-----
From: Vaughan Dodd [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 3:22 PM
To: Edward
Cc: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: new release of WE expected?
But Edward: you can use v8.4 with Firefox.
The broader question though is that we do need a new Window-eyes
sooner rather than later. The industry appears to be passing Window-eyes by.
Its shortcomings are more than just with Internet Explorer v11.
Sent from my iPhone
On 11/10/2014, at 4:51 am, Edward <[email protected]> wrote:
I hope it comes out soon. I cannot use window eyes 8.4 with ie 11
because of all the bugs.
Edward
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 11:41 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: RE: new release of WE expected?
I think it is likely to coincide with the release of Windows 10.
Regards, John.
From: Rob Hudson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 3:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: new release of WE expected?
Not sure, but i'd guess the answer to be whenever it's ready.
----- Original Message -----
From: Morne van der Merwe <mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 7:05 AM
Subject: new release of WE expected?
Hello all,
Just for interest sake. When can we expect a new update to WE?
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