Hi Robin,

 

I'm a loyal WE user, and an app developer, and, depending as I do on the
scripting facility of WE, I'll never forsake it entirely for any other
screen reader.

At the same time, I recently installed NVDA because WE wouldn't allow
instant access to Malware Bytes, an anti-spyware program, which NVDA does.

So, for me, NVDA is now in my PC toolkit.

By the way, on the Start menu, in the NVDA program group, there is a
Documentation pull-down, and, therein, an item called Commands Quick
Reference,.  If you  choose this item, it opens your browser and it has, in
tables, all the commands for NVDA's functions.

 

hth,

 

Rod

 

From: Van Lant, Robin [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: WE v. NVDA

 

Fellow WE users.

I'm hesitantly posting this question because I really do want some of your
insights, but I hope we can keep this from getting negative.  I have been
an active Window Eyes user for probably around 14 years now as my vision
decreases and I hope to remain one for the long-term.  Because of some of
the new software I use at work and because of some of the current issues
we've all discussed on this list, I finally took the recommendation to
download NVDA last night on my home computer and hope to bring it over to
work soon.  I'm daunted by the wealth of new keystrokes I don't know in
NVDA for doing even the simplest things I take for granted in WE, but for
the first time, I was able to access Windows 8.1 last night without some
weird delays that happen running WE 8.4 in Office 2010 on my home PC.  At
least that helps me pinpoint that my issues were WE related, not my new
laptop.  That brings me to a couple questions: 

 

First, I'm just blown away at the skills of so many of you on this list for
remembering all the Window Eyes keystrokes using just one screen reader.
I'm not sure if I just don't have a great memory or if you all really do
rely on cheat sheets to keep it all straight.  Now that I've added a second
screen reader, I'm really baffled at how I'll keep everything straight.
Any advice on this or expectation setting you can offer from those who are
WE power users and/or use two different screen readers? 

 

Second, when things get negative on this list, it seems there is a camp of
people who rave about NVDA, but yet they are still on this list and using
Window Eyes.  So, I'm really curious if those of  you using NVDA only use
it as a backup when WE isn't handling something well or if you have another
rationale for when you use which.  The person who motivated me to try NVDA
is a college student who only uses NVDA, but used to use JAWS, so he's not
in the same boat.  

 

As I said, I really hope to be a Window-Eyes user long term and am holding
out for version 9, but am eager to see what NVDA can do.  If nothing else,
it gives me a tool to use to measure whether an issue I'm having is a WE
issue or a general screen reader accessibility issue.  Looking forward to
your thoughts.

 

Robin



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