i am Not replying to the post specifically about One note, hence the
retail subject line. I would also like to point out a program called
Brainstorm which is very similar to Max think and would be my personal
preference along with scrivener to see made accessible.
On 10/26/2014 6:41 AM, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote:
Hi Chris,
Ok, but this will not answer, if WE9 can read the menu. but probably you
will/may not answer this.
But in Action outline, Jaws or Nvda can read the menu, but in Azz cardfile,
also Nvda or Jaws can't read the menubar.
But in Azzcardfile, when opening a card with enter, you can read the card in
Window-Eyes, but Nvda will not.
You will see: each screenreader is different.
Regards, marten
On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 12:26:23 +0000 Chris Grabowski <[email protected]>
wrote:
Only the top level menu isn't spoken with Window-eyes in Action Outline. You
can use alt-f alt-e etc and the pull down menus read.
Having said that I took Azz cardfile for a spin and you can get the top level
menu to speak by using alt-f etc, press escape then you can left/right arrow
through the top level menus.
By pressing alt alone you are taken to the system menu so it seems to be an
issue the developer could correct.
Chris
Window-Eyes Product Support
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-----Original Message-----
From: Marten Post Uiterweer [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 6:58 AM
To: Dave Bahr
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Max Think or similar
Dave,
Azz cardfile is a program with standard controls, but with alt, the menu bar is
not spoken in this program. Same as with Action outline.
You can try it. It's a windows program.
www.azzcardfile.com
Regards, marten
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 17:37:32 -0600 Dave Bahr <[email protected]> wrote:
I used action outline for a bit but didn't like it for some reason, now I can't
remember why. maybe I should revisit it. Any other suggestions? and azz
cardfile? isn't that for mac? never have used it but I thought it was for
contacts. I guess what I like about max think is that it's more of a lateral
type of interface where the topics are on one side and the subtopics are to the
right, at least, that's how I think it's laid out. I've discovered that I don't
mind a tree for organization, but it's almost too rigid. I know I brought up
wiki creation on the list some time back, but Wikidpad and mediawiki are a bit
hard to work with, tiddliwiki is kind of cumbersome, at least I thought so.
WikidPad was nice because any entry you want can become its own page, but
trying to navigate the tree structure and figure out the tag system was really
confusing for me.
just my thoughts.
On 10/25/2014 5:25 PM, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote:
Hi Chris,
I am using Azz cardfile, but Outline has more features.
But Outline is a good example of something you want in WE9.
Will WE9 read the menubar in Outline?
Nvda does. And there are more programs where Nvda or Jaws can read the
menubar, but WE not.
Regards, Marten
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 22:41:14 +0000 Chris Grabowski <[email protected]>
wrote:
How about Action Outline from:
http://www.actionoutline.com
Reclass the tree to a tree and the edit box to an edit box. The only thing it
doesn't do is read the top level menu properly, other then that it works great.
Chris
Window-Eyes Product Support
Ai Squared
725 Airport North Office Park
Fort Wayne, IN 46825
(802) 362-3612
www.aisquared.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Bahr [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 2:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Max Think or similar
Hi. Does anyone here use max think, the old program that eventually made
it to windows about 15 years ago, written by Neil Larson? I'm looking
for something like it, window-eyes doesn't quite get the concept. I need
an organizer that's flexible, I was also looking at one called
Brainstorm, but window-eyes isn't reading the rich edit fields properly.
Anyone have any thoughts? Besides the thought that I'm wasting time
looking at ways to manage my thoughts when I could just think them? I
just am interested in representations of thoughts for a book I'm writing.
Thanks, Dave
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