Mike, again wonderful explanation!
With the VS one can move frame by frame?
So, on this particular site this is different? I can move frame by frame with the VS on this site too?
Be keen to hear more explanation if you can please indulge me?!!
Peter


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Freeman" <[email protected]
To: <[email protected]
Date sent: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 19:08:38 -0700
Subject: Re: [GWN] your browser does not support inline frames message

Ah, I get it.

Well, some sites have frames that appear in-line with the rest of the text as opposed to being off to one side or the other. You'll see this on many sites wherein ads are placed in in-line frames. That's why JAWS (and, presumably, the other screen-reading programs) have a way to disable reading of in-line frames. I generally take advantage of this function in that, although ads pay for the sites, I'd rather have a one-liner telling me that and the ad purveyors assume I'm intelligent and if I wish to buy something,
I will; else don't bother me! (grin)

Incidentally, thank you for the compliments. Sometimes I realize I wax a bit caustic and have to sit on myself to keep the barbed comments to a minimum.
(grin)

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "peter greco" <[email protected]
To: <[email protected]
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [GWN] your browser does not support inline frames message


Hi Mike
Thanks for your usual wonderfully intelligent and full of common sense
information!
I always really love hearing from you! I learn so much from your
articulate and very revealing posts!! Please keep them coming!!

My question was more about why this message was happening rather than why couldn't the Voice Sense operate like a p c, because I don't use a p c, like I think many have said they also do not use a p c that are on this
list!
As it turns out the Voice Sense got me the information I was wanting from the site perfectly well, and so I repeat, to you, the question was more
about why the message and what it means!
By the way, the site does not have a mobile version. I have learnt, thanks to outstanding contributions from most knowledgable people like yourself, that sites designed for mobile phones do work absolutely
fabulously with products like the Voice Sense.
Peter


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Freeman" <[email protected]
To: <[email protected]
Date sent: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 13:50:06 -0700
Subject: Re: [GWN] your browser does not support inline frames message

Peter:

You'd be better off if you could find a version of the page designed for mobile devices. AS a number of us keep emphasizing (but it apparently doesn't get through), the Sense products are basically fancy PDA's, that
is,
mobile devices with refreshable braille displays or fancy voice software, and work best with sites designed for mobile devices. They are NOT --
repeat
NOT -- full-fledged computers, despite the high price tag which comes, for the most part, from the cost of the braille displays and for Voice Senses, from the specially-engineered software for the blind. And lest you say
how
come mobile phones can be made accessible, bear in mind that the mobile phones accessible out-of-the-box use commercially-available voice synthesizers, not the Eloquence you've grown to know and love on your
Sense
products.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "peter greco" <[email protected]
To: <[email protected]
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 5:25 AM
Subject: [GWN] your browser does not support inline frames message


When i go to
www.westadelaidefc.com.au
The VS running 5,5 begins to read a few lines and then says,
"your browser does not support inline frames or is currently configured not to display inline frames." I can then read a few more lines and that
message is spoken again.

What does this mean and can the VS support inline frames, whatever that
may be?

When reading information on a page on this site, it doesn't identify where there are links, however, if I tab or shift tab, i can find links and
enter okay on them.
Peter

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