Daren, I just tried running Text2SET at the command line with an appropriate input and output file, i.e.,
text2set.exe EdSharp.t00 EdSharp.000 It seemed to work except the GUI mode was entered, and the read-only edit box remained on the screen. I would like the installer to do this behind the scenes. , returning to the command line after the operation. How can I do this? Jamal On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 20:17:28 +0100 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Speech environment distributed with EdSharp > > Jamal, > > You're right, I did mean using Text2set to specify the associated Key > Label Dictionary for the generated set file. > > This line should do it. > > Key_Label_Dictionary_File = edsharp.key > > By default, all set files are associated with keylab.key since this is > what wineyes.000 is associated with. All you do is alter the > association in your generated set file. Both keylab.key and your > dictionary will be active whenever your dynamically generated Ed Sharp > set file loads, since keylab.key is global. This is because all set > files are derived from wineyes.000. > > Window-Eyes differs from jaws in that almost all settings are stored > in a set file, and all dictionaries have meaning due to their > associations with a set file. The only exception comes in with the set > files themselves and their associations to applications, which as you > know happen with the .we file. The .we file is now of even greater > importance because of scripting. This has the effect of requiring set > file format modifications to be made between Window-Eyes versions, > since it is rare that a new file type for a new manager appears. > However, the process of generating a set file with text2set has > remained more or less constant throughout the history of Window-Eyes. > Therefore, assuming the setting you want to include in your new set > file existed back in Window-Eyes 1.0, there's no reason why that > shouldn't be possible, other than the small factor of incompatible > Windows versions and file locations *grin*. > > Daren > > On 08/07/2008, Jamal Mazrui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks, Daren -- I'll look into that technique. I'm not aware, however, > > that TEXT2SET can specify a key label dictionary to be associated with > > the set file being generated. Did you mean that, or specifying the > > association in another way? > > > > Jamal > > On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > > >> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 19:20:20 +0100 > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Reply-To: [email protected] > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: Speech environment distributed with EdSharp > >> > >> Jamal, > >> > >> It's not possible to have a Key label dictionary file without a set > >> file. However, it is possible to dynamically create a set file based > >> on a user's wineyes.000 with the only modification of the Key Label > >> dictionary association and the alternative file name i.e. edsharp.000. > >> > >> You could use a text2set command to do it. > >> > >> As for the automation approach, again I think thats possible. It seems > >> you can do something like > >> > >> Const MyKeyFile = "edsharp.key" > >> ActiveSettings.KeyLabelDictionary.Open MyKeyFile > >> > >> Text2set is probably your best bet since EdSharp won't be running when > >> you perform this step. It also works regardless of the version of > >> WIndow-Eyes being installed. > >> > >> I always forget the syntax of doing it on the command line, but all > >> you'd need in the input text file is a line that looks like > >> Key_Label_Dictionary = edsharp.key > >> > >> Best way to make sure is to decompile your wineyes.000 with Set2text, > >> and search for a string similar to "Key_Label". > >> > >> Hope this helps. > >> > >> Darren > >> > >> On 08/07/2008, Jamal Mazrui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > yI did mean a .key rather than .lab file. Are you sure that one can be > >> > created programmatically via the object model (it seems like some set > >> > file related features area read only in the object model)? To clarify, > >> > the EdSharp installer presents an optional Window-Eyes package to > >> > install, the default option being unchecked. I do not want to make > >> > assumptions about hotkey assignments and other aspects of someone's set > >> > files, so would prefer to just distribute a key label dictionary without > >> > a set file. Is this not possible? > >> > > >> > Jamal > >> > On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > > >> >> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:48:26 +0100 > >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> Reply-To: [email protected] > >> >> To: [email protected] > >> >> Subject: Re: Speech environment distributed with EdSharp > >> >> > >> >> Jamal, > >> >> > >> >> Key label dictionaries .key are associated with a set file. Since > >> >> association by title isn't practical, class would indeed seem the way > >> >> to go. > >> >> > >> >> Alternatively, you could just manually create the key labels yourself > >> >> with the Window-Eyes.Application com instance, although that would of > >> >> course only work for WE 7.0 or later, and probably require more effort > >> >> on your part. The added benefits however to this latter approach are > >> >> that other people won't have to download and install your customised > >> >> speech environment, though that is of course also a huge disadvantage, > >> >> as a speech environment dynamically created through the exposed > >> >> Window-Eyes interface would probably be more difficult to permanently > >> >> customise. Since many of us love Window-Eyes for its flexible > >> >> verbosity, any decision along these lines deserves consideration. > >> >> > >> >> Anyway hope this helps. > >> >> > >> >> Darren > >> >> > >> >> On 08/07/2008, Jamal Mazrui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> > I want to distribute a Window-Eyes speech environment with EdSharp to > >> >> > fine > >> >> > tune speech in ways not practical otherwise. Initially, I just want > >> >> > a > >> >> > custom set of key labels. Can I distribute a .lab file without a > >> >> > .set > >> >> > file? I looked at the content of a .we file after associating a .lab > >> >> > file, and did not find a reference to the .lab file, so is that > >> >> > association stored in a .set file? Since EdSharp has a varying title > >> >> > depending on what MDI document is active, do I need to associate with > >> >> > the > >> >> > window class rather than the title? I noticed that the association I > >> >> > created does not seem to work reliably, so wonder if this is the > >> >> > cause. > >> >> > > >> >> > Jamal > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >
