Hello Aaron and Jeff,

My point was not to be at all disrespectful toward anyone. Unfortunately, I 
have dealt with a number of situations while testing Homer Layout where I 
didn't have any specifics on what was changed and updating caused serious 
problems. As a result, I will no longer use or recommend anyone else use 
that particular package until I see a change in practice. That's quite 
unfortunate, as its potential for providing a solid JAWS keyboard emulation 
for Window-Eyes remains high. I appreciate both of your efforts in creating 
documentation that tells me, as a mere user, what changes have been made so 
as to further inform my decision making. Yes, Jamal, you certainly can do 
anything you like with your scripts. I respect that. I also respect GW 
Micro's unwillingness to place many restrictions on SC. All the same, though 
I will be as respectful as I know how to be, I'll continue to advocate for 
some basic best practices that serve to protect the user community. Although 
you don't receive money from those of us who use your scripts, you do 
receive a certain amount of prestige and recognition. I still respect your 
hundreds, if not thousands, of hours of hard work. I'm sure many others feel 
the same. Please be sure you don't end up working against yourself to reduce 
this status. :-)

I guess all of you can see that I feel quite strongly about a few things. 
I'm always quite happy to have conversations in less public venues if anyone 
is interested. Meantime, I understand that I've said enough on this public 
list about my feelings concerning the need to include change logs or release 
notes in script updates. I shall no longer repeat myself on this point. 
Instead, I shall vote with my own copy of Window-Eyes by taking care to make 
sure I have at least some idea about what I am getting before performing an 
update to any script package.

Thanks for reading...

Darrell


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aaron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 8:10 PM
Subject: Re[2]: New Direct Text package


I'll chime in here as well, seeing as how SC is my baby. Posting what's 
changed in a script update is really up to the script author, and is not 
something that should be required. If you don't trust a script because of a 
lack of update information, or are not comfortable installing a script 
without knowing what's new, then don't use it. The open community model that 
SC provides will control the success of a script. If enough people stop 
using a script because they're not being told what it does, or what changes 
have been made, then the script author may need to re-evaluate his or her 
approach.

Personally, I try to include at least a small snippet of all the changes I 
make between versions. Not only does it create a constructive dialog with my 
users about what I'm doing (especially for those who are not subscribed to 
any GW email list), it helps me keep track of what I've done. This provides 
me with a sort of development history. It's easy for me to review the 
changes that have been made because I take the time to note them. I also 
feel that the change history is part of script development. To me, a script 
is not completed when the package is created, but instead is completed when 
the package is made available to users with the appropriate information as 
to why I'm bothing them with an update in the first


-----Original Message----- 
From: "J.J. Meddaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Date: 09/22/08 22:48
Subject: Re: New Direct Text package

I have to agree. Each author has their own way of expressing changes to a
script.
I'm considering going to an external changelog linked to on my scripts, for
example.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jared Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: New Direct Text package


> Darrell Shandrow wrote:
> "I'd go so far as to say that a change log or release notes ought to,
> somehow, be required by GW Micro in order to post on SC..."
> Somehow I think this would only drive people away from SC and thus
> neutralize its SC's usefulness as a whole.
>
>
> JW
>

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