Tiler,

since we don't have any other list to discuss application development, I
think this list is ok for use on such a topic.  especially since we're
discussing a WE scripting application.

Chip
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Tylers Scripting [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 7:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: looking for collaborators for a GPS project

Sure.
 That is a good way.
 Guys, were getting a bit off topic on this.
 I think this list was for scripting right?
 Just reminding people.
 Tyler

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: Stephen Clower <[email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Date sent: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:37:39 -0500
>Subject: Re: looking for collaborators for a GPS project

>Chip,

>With most laptops and netbooks running either Vista or Windows 7 
>nowadays, you might be able to take advantage of the built-in
voice
>recognition these operating systems provide.  XP users might even
have an
>option or two, though some cash will have to be dropped for
anything decent.

>Steve


>On 12/9/2009 6:35 PM, Chip Orange wrote:
>> yes, this kind of thing M.J.  is very appreciated.

>> Tiler, you're right; if you have a spare couple of thousand of 
dollars, then
>> go buy a notetaker and a gps nav option; what is that, 3 
thousand dollars?
>> it's much better than this will be, although this will have a 
few options
>> they currently don't.

>> but, if you spent the money you had on a laptop or better a 
netbook, then
>> this kind of program, for the cost of a gps receiver and 
MapPoint (say
>> $200), would give you a great deal of additional mobility which 
you wouldn't
>> otherwise have.

>> if M.J.'s suggestion of voice recognition doesn't work, then 
maybe an
>> external numeric pad, or a wireless numeric pad, could be worn 
on the belt
>> for control of the app.  maybe others will have other 
suggestions.

>> I'm doing it mostly because I'm just interested in GPS, but I'd 
like it to
>> be useful too.

>>   Chip


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: MJ Rys [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:19 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: looking for collaborators for a GPS project

>>              This is only a suggestion, but what if you used a 
voice
>> recognization program with the GPS?
>> Then you wouldn't have to press any buttons, just give voice 
commands.
>> In reference to the negative criticisum, woudn't it be better if 
it were
>> more on the possitive side?
>>   I am sure we can always find reasons why things won't work, 
but how about
>> suggestions that could make this project more of a success.

>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tylers Scripting"<[email protected]
>> To:<[email protected]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:11 PM
>> Subject: RE: looking for collaborators for a GPS project



>>> Hi Chip,
>>> You'd not have easy access to the laptop or netbook when you're 
walking.
>>> I understand your point about the bus deal, but when I'm 
walking, do you
>>> think I'm going to stop in the middle of the street just to 
press a
>>> button, and put myself in a wrisk of getting hit by a car?
>>> Tyler


>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Chip Orange"<[email protected]
>>>> To:<[email protected]
>>>> Date sent: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:33:39 -0500
>>>> Subject: RE: looking for collaborators for a GPS project


>>>> Tiler,


>>>> laptops can be worn in backpack cases, and netbooks can be worn

>>> in

>>>> over-the-shoulder cases similar to those for notetakers.


>>>> An ear-bud or bluetooth headset (with one ear left off the ear)

>>> can provide

>>>> you with the audio output you need as you travel along.


>>>> this isn't designed so much as a replacement for a notetaker

>>> system, as it

>>>> is an interesting add-on for someone who owns a laptop, and

>>> perhaps would be

>>>> carrying it anyway.


>>>> and if you're a passenger on a bus, in a taxi, or just being

>>> given a ride by

>>>> a friend, and you're expected to provide directions, or know 
when

>>> you're to

>>>> get off of the bus, then you can put the netbook or laptop on

>>> your lap, and

>>>> have it give you the turn-by-turn directions you need to guide

>>> your driver,

>>>> or tell you about upcoming stops on a bus.


>>>> Chip



>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Tylers Scripting [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:30 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: re: looking for collaborators for a GPS project


>>>> Hi Chip,
>>>> Are you going to make little lanyards for us to hang our laptops

>>> around our

>>>> neck?
>>>> How are you going to cary a laptop, a white cane, and whatever

>>> else you're

>>>> carrying with two hands?
>>>> Tyler


>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Allison and Chip Orange"<[email protected]
>>>>> To:<[email protected]
>>>>> Date sent: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 17:13:01 -0500
>>>>> Subject: looking for collaborators for a GPS project


>>>>> Hi all,


>>>>> some years ago I started a laptop-based GPS navigation project

>>>> for the

>>>>> visually impaired.  it was meant to be very similar in

>>>> functionality to

>>>>> those published by sendero, except that it would run on laptops.

>>>> now we've

>>>>> got netbooks to work with, and so it seems even more usable.


>>>>> the project gets it's mapping data from Microsoft Mappoint, 
which

>>>> makes it

>>>>> visible via an object model.  it has data equivalent to that of

>>>> Sendero's

>>>>> products, including millions of POIs, but it's not nearly so 
easy

>>>> to get at

>>>>> for personal navigation purposes as I imagine Sendero's data

>>>> interface is,

>>>>> so progress is slow.  MapPoint is mostly designed to display

>>>> graphically

>>>>> various datasets on top of street map data, and so some finesse

>>>> with the

>>>>> object model is needed.  any user of this system would need to

>>>> buy a copy of

>>>>> MapPoint, which can be had for as little as $99 sometimes.


>>>>> I had originally written it in visual foxpro, but MS has

>>>> abandoned (or "end

>>>>> of lifed") that product.


>>>>> anyway, I've started rewriting the project using vb script under

>>>> window

>>>>> eyes, even though I know this will make it accessible to a lot

>>>> fewer people.

>>>>> I made that decision mostly because I thought it would be the

>>>> fastest way

>>>>> I'd be able to get a working project out the door, and users can

>>>> obtain a

>>>>> free 90 day trial of MapPoint to try it out.


>>>>> what's happened is that I've been hit by health problems, and 
I'm

>>>> not able

>>>>> to dedicate much time to the project.


>>>>> some version of it is working now; for instance, you can press a

>>>> "where am

>>>>> I" key, and be told the nearest street address.  a very basic

>>>> system is  in

>>>>> place for adding your own points of interest.


>>>>> what I'm looking for is someone who is interested in GPS

>>>> navigation, and is

>>>>> an experienced vb scripter, and who would like to come in as a

>>>> collaborator

>>>>> on the project.


>>>>> I have plans to add some features not found in Sendero's

>>>> products, just to

>>>>> make it more useful, and I've made the GPS handling module a

>>>> shared object,

>>>>> so that other programmers can possibly develop location-based

>>>> applications

>>>>> or features in their projects.


>>>>> If you have questions how about posting them here on the list if

>>>> you think

>>>>> others may be interested in the answers, and if you'd like to

>>>> discuss being

>>>>> a collaborator, write me off the list at my home address of
>>>>> [email protected]


>>>>> even if you're not interested in being a collaborator, I would

>>>> like to hear
>>>>>from those who think such a laptop/netbook solution would be a
>>>> good idea.

>>>>> obviously, it's going to be harder to work with a laptop while

>>>> moving

>>>>> around, and so thought will need to go into more automatic

>>>> functionality,

>>>>> and means of interfacing with the program other than the

>>>> keyboard.  I would

>>>>> like to explore the free vista/windows 7 speech recognition for

>>>> instance.


>>>>> thanks.


>>>>> Chip




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