David,

looks like I missed a property of the collection; there is a property named
"active" which indicates the single braille table which is active, so going
through the collection isn't necessary after all.

instead, I think you want:

speak activeSettings.braille.TranslationTables.active.name

hth,

Chip

-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Orange [mailto:lists3...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 2:28 PM
To: 'gw-scripting@gwmicro.com'
Subject: RE: Braille Table question

David,
 
in the help file, yes it seems you understood exactly where I meant, when it
tells you which kind of object something may be retrieved from, you can
click on that object there in the text, and you'll be reading the main help
topic for it.
 
if you had gone back just one level further from setfile you would have seen
that the active setfile is a property named activeSettings of the
application object.  Any time you need to know what's active for pretty much
anything, try looking first under the application object.  sometimes, if you
guess right there as to which general type of item the property you're
seeking might be in, you can go down from the top and find it, rather than
from the bottom going up.  however, the bottom going up as I said will
always work, without guessing.

In this case, it looks to me like you should use:

activeSettings.braille.TranslationTables

which will give you a collection of all the braille tables in the currently
active setfile.  If you have never dealt with a collection before, it's a
kind of list, like an array, and you'll have to run through it, processing
each item in the list like this:

dim objCurTable
for each objCurTable in activeSettings.braille.TranslationTables
' do something with objCurTable
next

I realize that the help file can be confusing when it's telling you the
object type, can be had from a property name (that's different than the
object type name) of another object type name, which when you look it up
comes from a property which is named differently than the object type name
... and so on.

I hope you will read the two wiki articles, and tell me where you're still
confused; I'm trying to do something about it for beginners.

hth,

Chip

________________________________

From: David [mailto:eleph...@tele2.no]
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 2:24 AM
To: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
Subject: Re: Braille Table question


Yes, Chip! I know of the help on each item, if I get your description right;
and we are talking the same language. 
 
Still, I think I get lost somewhere in here. As far as I can make it, to get
the name of the active Braille table, I have to get to the 
ACTIVE
Which can be retrieved from
BrailleTables
Which is to be retrieved from 
TRANSLATIONTABLES
Which is retrieved from 
BRAILLESETTINGS
Which is retrieved from 
BRAILLE
Which is retrieved from 
SETFILE object.
PWEEW! Allright, where is it I got lost? Could someone, please, have
provided me a short sample code, that would return the name or number of the
currently active Braille Table? I thought it would be possible, but find the
manual of very little help, as it only reads a load of 'can be retrieved
from', and provides absolutely NO example, whatsoever. Feels like one or two
lines of sample code every now and then, would have been really helpful.
This is actually one of the BIG drawback I find about the Scripting manual.
Cases like this, I feel like you are linked in an ever ongoing circle, and
you keep swirling around therein, all till someone provides a bit of sample
code, and Woopsy, you start to grasp some meaning in all of it. Don't know,
if it is only me, who feels that way. And, for right now, it doesn't matter
too much whether or not. What keeps my project stuck, at the moment, is that
I can't get the info as to which Braille table is active, or how to change
it. 
 
Hope someone can provide me a bit of help, since I have been running in
circles in the manual for a few hours now. 
 
Thanks alot!
 
 
 

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Chip Orange <mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>  
        To: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com 
        Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 4:21 AM
        Subject: RE: Braille Table question

        Hi David,
         
        if you will go into the help file, and find the brailletables
object, and press enter on it, this will open it up in the tree structure,
but it will also make a help topic for the object available, which you can
see as usual with the f6 key.  it took me a while to catch on to this, I
thought the top level objects were just there as containers for the
properties and methods in the tree structure, but they do have their own
help, and each one tells you how to get that particular kind of object.
here is what it says for brailleTables:
         
        "Usage
        Use the
        BrailleTables
         object to retrieve a collection of Braille tables. A
        BrailleTables
         object can be obtained from a
        BrailleSettings
         object's
        TranslationTables
         property."

         hth,
         
        Chip
         
________________________________

        From: David [mailto:eleph...@tele2.no] 
        Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 9:37 PM
        To: Scripting List WE
        Subject: Braille Table question
        
        
        I am pretty sure, I don't understand the manual. So every bit of
direction is greatly appriciated. Here is my script, please let me know what
I am missing, and how to do it correctly.
         
        Dim BrlTab
        Set BrlTab = BrailleTables.Active
        Speak "Current Braille Table is: " & BrlTab
         
        I get the following error message:
        Variable is undefined: 'BrailleTables'
        Ok, what do I do to define the BrailleTables object, described in
the manual?
         
        Thanks again,
         

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