Hi, Chip.
Bit of testing here, seems to confirm your statement, that the spoken window title, is the Overlap.title. I was kind of prepared that it would be, but wanted to make sure my findings would carry some kind of water proof. Maybe I finally can do something about a project that has been sitting around here for a year or so. Your class #8, really clarified something for me, when comes to the different window types. Still a few more holes to fill in, but at least I am able to hope for the project to finalize, somewhere down the road. It still doesn't hurt to play around, you know. Smile.

PS: If it is getting late with you; it is getting that late over here, that it is more like EARLY. Is that what they name turning the negatives into possitives? Smile.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chip Orange" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 4:19 AM
Subject: RE: Window title, when alt-tabbing?


Hi David,

right now, I'd guess it's the overlap window, but only because why else
would they put it there unless activeWindow wouldn't always give you the
same window object?

Anyway, it can't be the activeWindow now I think about it, as that window
you're alt-tabbing to isn't yet active when you hear it's title, so what
you're hearing is the top level window from whatever window list the desktop
is working with, and that's what the overlap says it is.

If you're thinking on trying to intercept this keystroke and it's speaking
of various window titles, well, so was I!

 I've given this only a little thought, but I read an article on virtual
desktops (not the same thing as virtual machines), where a windows user can
setup more than one desktop to run their applications on, and flip between
desktops the way we usually flip between windows.

the advantage is that you can group your applications which are running, so
the ones running on any given desktop are related, so yu don't have to see
all your open windows at once. The author had all her work-related programs
on one desktop, all her communication programs on another (email, twitter,
facebook, messenger, etc.), and all her recreational programs (web sites and
rss feeds she likes to read, games, etc.) on a third.

when I've got a dozen windows to work my way through to find the one I want,
I can really appreciate this kind of organization.  I was wondering if we
could do it "virtually" with window-eyes scripting, by simply giving the
user the ability to place windows into different groups, and then modifying the behavior of alt-tab so it only works with the currently selected group.

Is there another way to select a window besides alt-tab and shift-alt-tab?
I seem to recall there was, but can't think of it.  I'd have to work with
any such other way as well.

there is an app I know (before someone mentions it) which lets you pick from
all top level windows, but it sorts them in some odd way (by module name I
think), and it's not configurable.

Anyway, it's late and I'm obviously rambling.

hth,

Chip




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From: David [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 7:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Window title, when alt-tabbing?


Whenever I hit Alt-Tab, I hear the title of the window spoken. That is the
window that will gain focus, when I release Alt-Tab. OK, guess you all know
what I mean.

My question is, which information is this actualy?
- The Overlap.title?
- ActieWindow.Title?
- or, is it anything else?

Thanks alot!


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