1. Open the Window-Eyes control panel.
2. Alt-A to pull down the Apps menu.
3. A to select App central and press enter.
4. Search for and activate the App development link.
5. Then search for: Immed 3.1.2

Hth,
Tom


On 11/26/2011 10:03 PM, Katherine Moss wrote:
Cool.  Thanks.  Which thingo was it under?  Like which section?

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Kingston [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 9:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: how to know what to reclass controls as when encountered

The immediate mode window is a script developed by GW-Micro and can be 
downloaded from their App central web-site. It's a fabulous tool and it's free, 
as is all the other scripting apps.

Just run the program you need to work with and pop up the Immediate mode window 
and you can dissect it to your heart's content as well as run chunks of 
VBScript or JScript code to see how it works. It's a priceless development 
tool. It's a good learning tool as well because it gives you immediate feedback 
on what you do.

Regards,
Tom


On 11/26/2011 8:59 PM, Katherine Moss wrote:
Is that a mode you can open?  I don't use WE much right now because it's kind 
of pointless having to restart my computer every half an hour.    I hope to 
purchase it within the week though.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Kingston [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 7:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: how to know what to reclass controls as when encountered

Just to add to what Chip said, sometimes, if you're lucky, a simple look at the 
control in the immediate mode window will do the trick. I just opened a program 
wherein I knew I had some good examples. And here's all I did.
1. Focus the custom control.
2. Open the Immediate mode window.
3. Enter the following and note the result.
Print FocusedWindow.ClassName
sfppack2Bld1503TrackbarClass
   From that I know it's just a custom track bar and reclass it as a track bar.
But this is the luck of the draw. Sometimes class names are informative or at 
least give you a potential clue or hint as to what to try.

Otherwise it's a matter of trying to figure the control out by evaluating its 
functionality. And sometimes these custom controls look virtually no different 
than their standard counterparts. So borrowing a pair of knowledgeable eyes can 
sometimes reveal their secret.

Good luck,
Tom



On 11/26/2011 7:34 PM, Chip Orange wrote:
Hi Katherine,

I'm afraid you can't reclass unless you have a pretty good idea as to
what it should be.

If you're a scripter, you can use the various scripting tools to take
a look at the control's name or class (which often gives you a hint
as to what it's being used for), or the MSAA info log using the WE
Event app might tell you something.

If you're not a scripter, then you are usually left to trial and
error (and a lot of the time, you have to set it back to "original"
because whatever you chose is worse than what it was doing).

Sorry it's not easier than that, but if it is, I'm afraid I don't
know about it.

Chip


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From: Katherine Moss [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 7:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: how to know what to reclass controls as when encountered



Hello all,

                   I was fooling around a few weeks ago with the WCF
service configuration editor (a tool in the Windows SDK that I will
need in future development endeavors), and I realized that some of
the controls were custom according to WE, so I made an attempt at
reclassing them.  I reclassed them as buttons not knowing what they
were actually supposed to be, and whatever I did, that seemed to make
them all disjunct and unreadable.  WE could read them, but it sounded
like Gibberish rather than English.  What is the first step when trying to 
reclass a control in figuring out what it should be?
Thanks guys.



Katherine Moss,

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