Enjoy Rod, and perhaps you'd like to publish your observations on the
GW-info list; many there I'm sure would find them interesting, and perhaps
you could save someone who is a little short of money, both money and
effort.

Yes, of course I have a lot of respect for the open source community as well
(that's why we're all here I'd say).

One small advantage to buying the Office suite is that you could then use
the MS Word VBA development environment for writing WE VBScript apps.  Using
an app I've written called Office VBA and VBScript Editor, this environment
is half way between VBScript done in Notepad, and VB.net done in Visual
Studio.  It gives you Intelli-Sense, and type declarations for all of your
variables, functions, parameters, etc., along with syntax checking of all
your code, and  an object browser and the ability to work with objects from
third-party programs.

If there's any real interest here on the list from those who own MS Word and
are VBScript developers, I'll update my tutorial I once did on this app
(because it has had a lot of features added since I created the audio
tutorial years ago).

(also, for anyone who is developing using the VBA of the Office suite, the
app also provides access to the Intelli-Sense feature of the VBA environment
in any Office product).

Ttyl,

Chip



-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Hutton [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 12:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: E-mail client accessibility

Hi Chip,

This Outlook appears to be a very powerful tool for time-management, and 
it's great that you can really access all its features. Honestly, I've 
always wanted to own the complete MSOffice suite, simply to be in the 
upgrade cycle, and be free of the worry about being able to migrate my 
data as the years go by. However, I am developing more and more respect 
for open source solutions, and I'm realizing that there is 
cross-pollenization going on between all of the software players. This 
is even true across platforms, i.e., Windows, Apple, Linux. Specifically 
in Thunderbird, I had to install an add-on to enable me to import my 
years of e-mail messages, which is why I mentioned to you that it's kind 
of hobbiest, but at least it was doable. I figure it goes back to what 
time and effort people are willing to give PC studies. This problem with 
e-mail has even made me question how much I'm willing to put up with. I 
expected Microsoft to offer a free e-mail client, and I put up with 
years of disappointment because I figured I shouldn't have to pay for 
what had been free in Windows XP, namely, Outlook Express. Funny thing 
was, though, I trusted Microsoft more than the open source community, 
even though both were offering free solutions. I see now that Mozilla is 
just as good, and perhaps better. It was simply a change of attitude 
that I needed.

I'll let you go for now, Chip. :)

TTYL,

Rod :)
On 4/24/13 8:56 PM, Chip Orange wrote:
> Thanks for the T-bird info; I'll keep it around for anyone who doesn't
care
> to spend the money for Outlook.
>
> BTW, one option you have for the Outlook calendar is to have it show your
> appointments in a list (just like a list of emails), and this is my
> preferred way of doing things; I do know WE users who have it show in a
> traditional calendar display, but the list works for me, and Outlook does
> all the tricky stuff of telling you if you're trying to schedule a
conflict,
> etc.  Outlook will even tell you, given parameters such as what days of
week
> and what time, and what people are involved, and how long, it will come
back
> with a list of times when everyone can get together.  In corporate
> environments it will also keep track of conference rooms, projectors, and
> other shared resources.
>
> Anyway, glad you got what you want for email.
>
> Ttyl,
>
> Chip
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rod Hutton [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 12:57 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: E-mail client accessibility
>
> Hi Chip,
>
> Thanks for your insight into Outlook, your preferring 2010 to the
> current, and your idea to just get this app alone rather than the whole
> Office suite.
>
> Actually, I just went through the nasty rapids of installing and
> configuring MozillaThunderbird, and I'm pretty cool with it. Just to let
> you know, what is new to me about this app over Windows Live Mail is
> it's numerous options of replying to messages, and things of this
> nature. It really seems to be the hobbiest's choice in an e-mail app,
> which I guess is open source in a nutshell. It's worth installing and
> checking it out, if for no other reason than curiosity and knowledge
> gain. What I love the most over WLM is it's traditional pull-down menu
> system, both in the main app window as well as in the message window.
> Configuring the e-mail is a cinch, once you trust the app to do the job
> for you. I'm glad Outlook works for you and your wife; I would have to
> see the calendar-type functions of Outlook for myself before I believe
> it, but I know GW Micro has done a lot of work with it to make it
> accessible. For me for now, I'm just happy to be able to write an e-mail
> without having to use Notepad and do cut and paste. :)
>
> Anyway, Chip, thanks again, and take care,
>
> Rod :)
>
>
> On 4/23/13 9:30 PM, Chip Orange wrote:
>> Hi again Rod,
>>
>>    
>>
>> Well, already answered most of this as I'm reading messages out of order.
>>
>>    
>>
>>    
>>
>> Any accessibility issues for Outlook 2010 have been dealt with by a GW
app
>> called Outlook Enhance, which I highly recommend (I'm not sure if it's
> being
>> included with the WE distribution or not).
>>
>>    
>>
>> One point: I think you can buy Outlook alone, you don't have to buy an
>> Office suite I don't think; and, my own opinion, I'd buy 2010 if you
still
>> can (just because it probably has more of its issues worked-out with WE
> than
>> 2013 does yet).  I don't know this however, so maybe you could check with
> GW
>> support to see what they think of 2013.
>>
>>    
>>
>> Hth,
>>
>>    
>>
>> Chip
>>
>>    
>>
>>    
>>
>> From: Rod Hutton [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:38 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: E-mail client accessibility
>>
>>    
>>
>> Hi Chip,
>>
>>    
>>
>> On an unrelated matter, I'm using Windows Live Mail for my e-mail client
>> (mainly, for the moment, because it's free).  However, for literally
> months,
>> I've had tracking issues in my message window and I'm  about a step and a
>> half away from getting some cash together to buy the MS Office Suite and
> so
>> be able to use Outlook.  I noticed you are using Outlook (from viewing
> your
>> message details        ), and I was wondering how you like it, and do you
>> have any accessibility issues?
>>
>>    
>>
>> Also, anyone reading this:  what's the best e-mail client from the point
> of
>> view of accessibility?  Bruce, I see you are using the reliable old
> Outlook
>> Express, but, unfortunately, Windows 7 barred the use of it...too bad for
>> me! :)
>>
>>    
>>
>> Thanks, Chip, and everyone,
>>
>>    
>>
>> Rod Smile
>>
>
>

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