Hi Dave,
It was a one time mistake and only based on name. When you save something
you expect it to be the one used. It will not happen again.
The fix is a pain, but the warning before installing clearly states what to
do and now I know why that warning is there. Before installing uninstall...
A minor headache, but it is an interesting event. Especially when the only
alert is the momentary saying of the actual program installed when going down
the apps list and an easy one to miss, it says "Cuckoo_Clock32"
But, I thought it might be related to several other unresolved issues, one
of which is my sapi class file I use. Which does cause problems if I have a
compiled .exe file which already uses a packaged version of the same thing, but
always looks externally before using the packaged version...
A minor headache, but will not happen again because you learn by mistakes,
hopefully.
Sincerely
Bruce
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: cuckoo clock laptop problem still happening
Just a general reminder.
Prior to making any releases, it is a good idea, always to run the wepm file
locally. If you find it convenient, make another user profile under
Window-Eyes, naming it things like: Instalation test. Then you can always make
sure, your wepm file will work as intended, unless there would be user specific
reasons. I have seen a few times, when packing did not go as expected, and the
installation took another approach from what I intended. Letting a wepm out the
door, without first having tested it to run, would be like letting the end-user
do the beta-testing of your package. For most apps, trying to run the wepm
file, should not take more than a couple of minutes. Yet, if you let out an
untested wepm file, you create maybe half an hours work for yourself, and
several complaining messages on the email server. Smile. So, do your testing,
before letting anything out the door. The users will usually be ok, waiting
five minutes longer, if they can be saved for a load of minor issues due to
lacking testing from the developer.
Not saying that this would have solved anything in this particular case. Only
making a general reminder to every developer. And, since you can perform this
in a second user profile, it won't mess up any of your daily activity. You can
even install other apps in this testing profile, that you don't normally use,
but which might have given impact on your new release. And, you would easily be
able to see, if the package will overwrite any files it should not, if it
creates all subfolders as it should, and if it produces a user-friendly and
smooth installation. The only thing you cannot really test, is in the event,
that the app will be affected by any setting or other material, individually
relating to the end-user's computer or usage.
----- Original Message -----
From: BX
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: cuckoo clock laptop problem still happening
Hi Chip,
It is not too hard to fix, just have to go back to the one I renamed as
32 and put it back to the name, and go from there.
I was wondering if that would happen because I get tired of the packing
placing the web where I can not find it and decided to do this not thinking it
would use the original name and not the new one.
I think that should be address as a change for the packaging manager
because after all when you save it, it asks for a name. In other words, if
someone changes the name when saving, you have essentially created a nightmare
just like we have.
So, someone has to modify the packaging manager to reflect this save
for it is actually not doing what you told it to do.
Bruce
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 6:42 PM
Subject: RE: cuckoo clock laptop problem still happening
Bruce,
The problem with the update is that the package name internal to the
.wepm file for version 3.2 is cuckoo_clock_32, while the internal package name
for the .wepm file for version 3.3 is just cuckoo_clock, so WE and appGet is
seeing it as two different packages.
And, this is indeed what happened to me: when I installed version 3.3 it
did not uninstall version 3.2, leaving me with two copies running.
This is going to be a hard one to fix.
Chip
From: BX [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 9:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: GW Aaron Smith
Subject: Re: cuckoo clock laptop problem still happening
Hi Chip,
I tried replying to this email and it was sent back, saying it was
too long. So I had to delete all other stuff before this email.
I had noticed that last night when updating my Windows 7 computer
that the cuckoo clock was not listed for update.
I also checked and discovered the flag for notifying others is in
fact checked at the web site end. Don't know why, but apparently that check box
is not working, at least for the cuckoo Clock app.
I guess I will have to write to Aaron and see what is going on.
Sincerely
Bruce
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 6:48 PM
Subject: RE: cuckoo clock laptop problem still happening
Thanks Bruce.
You may want to ask GW for some help with your update, for whatever
reason, but Window-Eyes through the add/remove apps dialog, and when using
apGet, neither of these show your latest upload as an update to the cuckoo
clock program. I don't have any ideas as to what is causing this, but to try
to see it for yourself, reinstall your 3.2 version and then use WE or appGet to
see if there are updates.
This means though, assuming it's happening to everyone, that people
won't be made aware that you've updated the program.
Thanks.
Chip
