Hi Chip,
Yes it might, when going down the list it actually said nothing when I
tried it before sending the example out.
But, David could number the menu items inside his xml file in each ID by
having a number at the end. Like: "me_item_4"
When doing this and he disables it he also know where it was on the item
list and when inserting the item he will have the number he needs to place it
on the list where he wants it.
I have not tried this but I suspect it will work. He just has to capture it
from the xml file when the dialog is created and any .ini setting such as
disable it is present then he can delete it from the list and capture it's item
number on the list and insert it back at will...even store the item number
inside the .ini file.
Best solution I can come up with in this case without having a blank spot
or dashes in the menu ...
Bruce
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:38 PM
Subject: RE: Disabling a menu choice - how to?
Bruce,
I don't recommend setting a submenu or menu item to a space, as even if it's
disabled, as you arrow across it window-eyes will speak "disabled"; it won't
speak any menu item text, so I think it would be confusing to the user. And
this is almost as much work as deleting and inserting the menu item.
Chip
From: LB [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Disabling a menu choice - how to?
Hi David,
Yes the menu item would still be there but, the text example I showed you
can be set to nothing or "" and disable the menu item by setting enabled =
False then you will have no item that is visible but a space would be on the
list.
You can do this or delete the item from the menu and insert it later.
What I mentioned above allows the item to be on the list where you want
it, but not visible, just an empty space that is disabled until you enable it,
so if clicking on it while disabled, nothing will happen.
When you enable it just fill in the text field with the prompt you want
there like I showed in my example.
Bruce
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: Disabling a menu choice - how to?
Thanks to all who responded.
Unfortunately, it seems things are not yet as easy as I hoped for.Smile.
OK, MyMenu.Enabled( "SupportByEmail") = False
MyMenu.Grayed( "SupportByEmail") = True
I have found a way to Grey out the menu entry, and also Disabling it:
MyMenu.Enabled( "MyId") = False
MyMenu.Grayed( "MyId") = True
This all works for now, although the menu entry would still be in the list,
when you scroll through the menu.
Then, you informed me about the three promising methods:
GetSubMenu,
Delete,
and
InsertMenu.
It sounded like what I wanted, and maybe it is. Yet, I did not get it to
work.
I tried to use the GetSubMenu to retrieve my XML defined menu entry, and
then store it in a local variable. Thereby, I hoped to be able to quickly
insert it at a later time, should the conditions change.
Well, see that does not work. Why? Well, my menu entry actually is a
submenu, holding three items. And if I do something like:
Dim TempMenu: Set TempMenu = MyMenu.GetSubMenu( "MyID")
' this will sure enough store a menu object in the TempMenu.
MyMenu.Delete( "MyID")
' Yep, it deletes the entry, from what I exprience.
MyMenu.InsertMenu
' Hmmm, here we get in trouble. I cannot just do something like:
MyMenu.InsertMenu( TempMenu)
' Why? because the InsertMenu takes three parameters, and none of them are
an object. They are two strings, The Text and ID of the menu entry to insert,
and then a numeric parameter. If I am to do it this way, I would have to First
Re-initiate the menu entry, and then re-initiate the three subitems of that
submenu, one by one. And that will be quite a lot of coding, since I would have
to get hold of each item's Text, and their individual ID. So, unless someone
could prove me wrong here, I guess I am better off simply to disable the
submenu for now.
Hope all of this makes sense. And GW, would it be possible in later
versions of the ToolKit, to have a feature to insert a whole submenu that you
temporarily have disabled? Or, I should have said Deleted.
Thanks again, everyone.
----- Original Message -----
From: Chip Orange
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 6:00 PM
Subject: RE: Disabling a menu choice - how to?
Rod and David,
After reading Rod's reply, he's quite right; you could add or delete a
menu item in the same way I was using the .enable property. I never thought
that could be what you meant with your question, but now that rod mentions it,
it's just as valid an interpretation.
I can't think of any reason why adding and deleting menu items is any
less desirable than enabling or disabling them.
Chip
From: Rod Hutton [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 11:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Disabling a menu choice - how to?
Hello David,
Normally, as I've learned from Chip's classes (see class 13), you check
or uncheck menu items, and you can also disable and enable them, as necessary.
However, having looked at the manual, it is possible to remove and insert
menu items as well. I've never used this approach in any of my apps, but I
suppose it is one approach. I've pasted the relevant info from the manual FYI.
hth,
Rod Hutton
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On 11/26/13 9:28 PM, David wrote:
Developers,
I could need a bit of educated assistance, please.
I have an app, that was started out by using the WEScript Framework app.
I wanted to add a choice to the app menu of my app, and for the ease we
will call it
MyMenuItem.
I entered the necessary information in the XML file, and modified the
MenuProc function in the app code - so it knows how to handle things, once my
new entry is selected. Everything works just like expected, this far.
Where my knowledge stops, is here. I want to make the new menu entry
available, only under certain conditions. Say for instance, I have a Boolean
variable, named
ConditionMet
and only want to display the entry on the app menu, when this variable
is true. Cook it all down to something like this:
If ConditionMet Then
' Need the code to make the menu entry visible.
Else
' need the code to make the menu entry disappear.
End If 'ConditionMet.
Allright, I know, it may not be all that simple. A couple of years of
app development, has taught me there likely will need to be a few lines extra
of codeing. Smile. Yet, I hope the above explains where my trouble has its nest.
More exactly, which variables (properties and methods), should I make
use of - so as to have the menu entry show up, and disappear. And, in the code,
where would I put the extra lines. As stated, the naked frame of the app, was
designed by WEScript Framework. So, if you happen to know exactly in which Sub
or Function the modification will be needed, I would be saved an hour of
searching through the lines of code. Smile.
Thanks for any ideas and input.
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