Hi Bruce,
Yes, there certainly are many ways to write such an app. Indeed,
although I wrote my app with warning messages in order to prevent
problems, now it seems that they don't want to hear messages, and so I
am rewriting my app to allow this. I think it's kind of dangerous,
though. We'll see how it turns out. However, Bruce, I really
appreciate all your time and effort in trying to teach me what I need to
know in order to write the best app possible. To be honest, it's kind
of scary to think that your PC could be programmed to trip you up, but
it can! smile
I wish I had more time to look at other things, including your Breaking
News, but there's just so much to do from day to day. smile
Good luck, though,
Rod
On 4/25/14 8:48 PM, LB wrote:
Hi Rod,
Before commenting on what you did I decided tonight to add more key
functions into my Breaking News app so you can also read the history you are
on, move through the history list and see what is there without loading each,
and even delete history spots, along with alerting you if you are at the end or
start of the history list; all using the arrow keys when in the control panels,
Alert, List, and Editbox...for reading.
I now added CtrlLeft, CtrlRight, CtrlUp, and CtrlDown with CtrlShiftUp Arrow to
delete a history URL.
About your app:
Yes, what you did is what I hoped you would do. I sent you something that
only works in one given window and it was the reason why I wrote it that way.
I just wanted to make sure you did not get a key stroke in some other app
which would mess you up or the person who wanted it would mess up.
I guess you could add that window handle to the app for enhanced security
just like I did, making sure only the window you are in is doing the key stroke.
Also, I wanted a normal key stroke and not a windoweyes key stroke so I
chose a standard keyboard key and not the reading of the title Bar.
but, as long as it works for you that is OK with me, I just added more
precautions in the one I gave you.
but, as I said, when activating it with the hotkey, you can capture the
window you are in and just add an if statement inside the set time function so
it gets bypassed when not in the window you want.
but, having said that you would also have to focus to that window, have
the key stroke perform, then go back to the window you are in.
Which brings up another feature, monitor the window handle to see if a key
stroke only happens in the window being monitored...lots of ideas for a simple
app.
that is if you really want a nice working, 1 window, key stroke...
As long as it works then wait and see if you do in fact need to monitor
windows.
Bruce
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: An app which prevents merchant service logout
Hi Bruce,
Yes, I caught that. Thanks. smile
After all your work, and my trying to get the app to behave reliably, it
turned out for me that my initial inspiration of how to write the app
won the day. Here is a link to my package on my DropBox:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvrb1gqbl3j0bgs/KeyboardActivity.wepm
It works, it's safe, and it does the job. See if you agree. smile
All the best,
Rod
On 4/25/14 3:20 PM, LB wrote:
Dim globaltimerVal: globalTimerVal = .25 'Minutes
Rod,
This value I had placed there should be changed either to 10 or 15
instead of .25 to make sure you wait 10 minutes or more or what you want to
have as the delay.
At the moment it will go off in around 15 seconds because it is .25 and I am
not sure if that is what you were talking about.
You can also add a menu, placing an option to change the time to what you
want. Or just add a radio box with minute values in it so you can change it.
Adding a second hotkey to make the change and get stored in the .ini file.
I did not do that but could to make it run easier. Just have been running
around and not been on the computer long except to upload the 2.6 version of
Breaking News.
As always, when someone does a review they give low marks. But since my
Breaking News app is a work in progress and lots of it will be taken out as I
refine it, I have to live with such reviews. As always, try not to take
attempts in helping others personal.
Bruce
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: An app which prevents merchant service logout
Hi Bruce,
I had sent you a message on your bronx lab address last night, but it's
not important now. I have been monkeying around with the app for almost
a day now, and you're quite right about it having timing issues. I'm
still working on it, and I just want to say thanks for all your help.
Take care,
Rod
On 4/24/14 2:51 PM, LB wrote:
Hi Rod,
I forgot to mention, the Control-Shift-3 toggles the program from on to
off so those 2 speech lines must remain so a person knows there monitoring the
keyboard.
I felt this was the best way to run the program, toggle it on and when
not needed, toggle it off. Of course it is off when Windoweyes is loaded and
only on for the window you are on when the hotkey is hit.
Even though the timer is always reset when a key is up, it might cause
problems for timing issues some times.
Bruce
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: An app which prevents merchant service logout
Hi Rod,
There are a lot of things in this app that should not be there. Most are
for debugging and see if event handling was done correctly.
You can take out all the speaking and such, or just comment them out. I
left the all keys up in just in case it is needed, but is not.
So the only thing that is in my app I sent you is it is triggered using
Control-Shift-3 and not 4. that was in conflict with another app so 3 had to be
used.
You can use any key you want to trigger a key event for the person who
wants or needs such a thing. What ever works can be used. This can open and
close a tree view or move back and forth in an editbox, or text...
So test it, have fun with it, and I think it should work for what you
needed.
Bruce
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: An app which prevents merchant service logout
Hi Bruce,
I noticed that the line containing Keyboard.WaitForAllKeysUp is still
commented out; is this your intention?
Thanks,
Rod
On 4/23/14 3:28 PM, LB wrote:
Hi Rod,
Here is the entire program to allow you to set the timer for a given
window. I activate this using a hotkey such as Control-Shift-3 keys.
I can send you the entire package I made to you instead of uploading the app to
app central, but maybe I will do that for those who may want it.
You have to change the time to the desired time you want. I placed it at
15 seconds here or .25 minutes as shown below. I did this for testing and you
can install this app and test it to see what I have done.
i use the left and right arrow to trigger and it only does it in the window you
had first set the app running.
The insert key requires 2 key values so if no modifiers just put kmNone
as I have done.
I will also zip up the entire app, including the .xml and let you try
it out.
Bruce
Entire App:
Dim oKeyActiveWindow: set oKeyActiveWindow = Nothing
Dim oKeyActiveChildren: Set oKeyActiveChildren = Nothing
Dim myKeyboard: Set myKeyboard = Keyboard
Dim globalTimer: globaltimer = 0
Dim globaltimerVal: globalTimerVal = .25 'Minutes
Dim myKeyboardConnection: myKeyboardConnection = 0
'Initial setting of timer.
' my_KeyUpConnection = ConnectEvent( Keyboard, "OnKeyProcessedUp",
"OnKeyProcessedUp")
Sub Key_Monitoring( myKeyId)
'This routine is called when the hotkey Control-Shift-4 is pressed.
If Keyboard.KeyDescriberActive Then
Speak myStrings(myKeyId & "_Description")
Else
'Main routine functionality goes here
Queue "Activate_Monitoring"
End If
End Sub
Sub Activate_Monitoring()
'Assumes present program when hotkey is hit is the active application for
monitoring.
If myKeyboardConnection = 0 Then
set oKeyActiveWindow = activeWindow.overlap
' Filter keyboard events for only this process
' myKeyboard.FilterProcess = oKeyActiveWindow.Process
On Error GoTo 0
' handle all MSAA event types
myKeyboardConnection = ConnectEvent( Keyboard, "OnKeyProcessedUp",
"MonitoringKeyUp")
Silence
Speak " Keyboard Monitoring Is Turned On! "
Sleep 1000
ResetTimer globalTimerVal
Else
Disconnect myKeyboardConnection
myKeyboardConnection = 0
On Error Resume Next
If globaltimer > 0 Then
StopTimer globalTimer
globalTimer = 0
End If
Set oKeyActiveWindow = Nothing
Silence
Speak " Keyboard Monitoring Is Shut Off! "
Sleep 1000
End If
End Sub
Sub MonitoringKeyUp( ky, km)
'Key up was processed.
If oKeyActiveWindow.Handle = activeWindow.overlap.Handle Then
Silence
Speak " Key Is Up "
Sleep 1000
Queue "ResetTimer", globalTimerVal
End If
End Sub
Sub ResetTimer( ByVal timerVal)
If globaltimer > 0 Then
StopTimer globalTimer
globalTimer = 0
End If
' Convert time to milliseconds.
timerVal = timerVal * 60 * 1000
globalTimer = StartTimer( timerVal, "DoTab" )
Speak " Timer Is Set "
Sleep 1000
End Sub
Sub DoTab()
If oKeyActiveWindow.Handle = activeWindow.overlap.Handle Then
'Keyboard.WaitForAllKeysUp()
Keyboard.InsertKey vk_Right, kmNone
Sleep 2000
Keyboard.InsertKey vk_Left, kmNone 'kmShift
Sleep 2000
End If
ResetTimer globalTimerVal
End Sub
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