Hal:

Before this ride started, Dave Bender circulated a note about how a group was 
consistently forming out of the ones dropped from the A ride at some point and 
how about trying to make that official.  I thought this ride was partly the 
result of that - my apologies if I'm wrong.  As such, I expected the group to 
be a bit stronger than the pace indicated.

However, I enjoyed the ride as far as distance and pace and will vote for 
leaving it as it is - ~75 miles is a bit long for me.

Mark

--- On Mon, 8/10/09, Hal Marcus <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Hal Marcus <[email protected]>
Subject: [Gyros: 13750] last saturday's A- B+ ride reflection--IMPORTANT reading
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 7:13 AM


This is long, but important for the future of this ride.

>From my perspective it was a great ride and then I thought about it. It was
supposed to be in the mid to high 18s and it finished in the mid 19s--5%
faster than posted. Some people are out there to push their abilities up to
the 18s and that 5% faster would be a killer.

At the finish it was obvious that we, I, had dropped a handful--hopefully
they were picked up by Maria.

At the rest stop no one came to me complaining about the pace, but I, as the
leader, did not check with everyone.

After the rest stop only about 1/3 of the people were still able to pull--I
took that as a sign that people were biking smart and drafting, but maybe I
should have seen it as people hanging on for life.

After hills, I went to the front to slow the pace down until I heard all
back on.

I never heard people yelling that they were being gapped or falling off the
pace.

I thought we were altogether when we hit Old Weaver, but now I doubt it.

On the hills of Weaver we broke up--I was not concerned for 2 reasons--it is
a gyro tradition to break up towards the end and the stronger riders 'race'
in and Ed was back there to help the 2nd group (turns out Tim was also
there, but I did not realize that at the time). 

At the end of Weaver at New Light I was asked if we should hold up--I said
no (because of the above reasons)--maybe this isn't a group that should
break up at the end.

We are a stronger group than I originally had thought we would be--in part
this is because several A riders like the 1/2 hour extra sleep and the
shorter distance. Also the strong riders that use to go out with the A's and
cut it short are now going with us and cutting it short. Starting with about
20 riders with almost 1/2 of them capable of A riding makes it a strong
group. We are now riding at last years A pace and we are capable of
increasing the speed.

As I said, not what I envisioned for this group.

Now the question--should we back it down to the high 18's or leave it where
it is? Another possibility, when we are a big group, is to split into 2
smaller groups at the rest stop with a secondary leader.

This is a club that is designed to serve all riding levels, not just the
A's.

Opinions before we post next Saturday's ride.


Hal Marcus
Pro-Active Management
A Profit Enhancement Organization
8125 Glenbrittle Way
Raleigh, NC  27615
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Office 919-845-2478
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