Hey guys, Steve and I went out there today and did all those "hills"
so dont bother.  We flattened them.

On Apr 7, 4:07 pm, "Kevin Dougherty" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Put a quarter in the juke & boogie 'till you puke"  -- Root Boy Slim (circa
> 1978).
>
> I might be interested in being one of the swept up A weenies. When do you
> need to know by ? I am anticipating a month of delicate negotiations to get
> a release on that date (my wife's birthday).
> Btw, the ends might not justify the means in this case. Will there be a sag
> wagon if you can't make it back up to your car ?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>
> Gary Rohlke
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 1:23 AM
> To: North Raleigh Cyclists (Gyros)
> Subject: [Gyros: 15212] Re: Spring Gyro Mountain Ride
>
> I will lead a B+ ride if anyone is interested.  The B+ ride is intended for
> those who want a slightly slower pace than the A ride.
> The B+ group will also be the sweep group picking up the many weenies who
> retire from the A group.  Please let Tony and I know if you are interested
> in the B+ ride so we can get a count.
>
> 1. The B+ ride will follow the same route and rules as the A ride.
>
> 2. The overall pace will be a bit slower than the A ride, but will not be
> leisurely.  There are no leisurely rides in the mountains.
>
> 3. The route, not including the three major climbs, consists of continuous
> rollers and long, steep inclines.  Just that part of the route is more
> difficult than anything we ride here in Raleigh at that distance.
>
> 4. There are three mountain climbs on the route.  The climbs are each over
> two miles in length and there are no flat sections where you can rest.  It
> is a continuous climb all the way up. Mountain roads in North Carolina were
> built following old goat and deer paths.  If you have ever seen a deer or
> goat climb you know what I am talking about.
> During the pre-Nascar, moonshine running days in western NC the good old
> boys had 400+ cubic inch engines ("got a hemi?") in their cars so a little
> "incline" was no problem for them.  Each of the three climbs is
> "interesting."  Sauratown, the first mountain climb on the route, consists
> of three long switchbacks.  Each switchback gets progressively steeper and
> longer with lengthy grades of 10% or better.  It is probably the "easiest"
> of the three climbs but psychologically seems very difficult because you can
> see almost all the way up the last mile and your slow progress up the
> mountain is all
> too evident and disheartening.   This is the first climb on the famous
> Three Mountain Madness (3MM).  If you are new to mountain climbing it will
> be your wake up call. When I ride in the 3MM as I am starting the climb up
> Sauratown I get to watch the "big dogs" on their way down, which puts them
> about an hour ahead of me less than 20 miles into the ride.  Talk about
> putting you in your place. There is no rest stop at the top of Sauratown,
> only a turnaround, fence, bugs (yes, some bees
> too) and a radio antenna farm.  Next stop is Hanging Rock which is ranked by
> the Rocket Man (Tom 
> Sheffieldhttp://ncbc.addr.com/documents/Rocket_Man_Climb_Ratings.htm)
> as the third most difficult climb in NC.  It has several, steep switchbacks
> with a 15% grade or more in some places.  The bottom section is the only
> place where you can see ahead for a few hundred feet, after that the road
> twists all over the place.  It has restroom facilities (a good place to
> puke) and water available at the parking lot off to the left before you
> reach the summit.  I have had the pleasure of bonking on Hanging Rock and it
> was all I could do to keep from going down backwards.  We finish with Pilot
> Mountain.  No, contrary to popular opinion, Andy Griffith did not ride his
> cruiser bike up Pilot Mountain from the fictional Mayberry (Mt. Airy).  But
> I have ridden up Pilot Mountain, several times in fact, and lived to tell
> about it - barely.  Each time I am grinding and cussing my way up Pilot
> Mountain I question my sanity.  Rocket Man ranks it number 6 on his list of
> most difficult NC climbs.  But it deserves better in my book.  It is at the
> end of the route so you face it when you are tired.  And you will be tired.
> It has two switchbacks that are so steep (~20% grade) that I have to lean
> over my handlebars jsut to keep the front wheel on the ground while barely
> turning over the cranks.
> The final mile or so is a constant 9-10% grade that just sucks the life out
> of your legs.  You are so high at the top you can see all the way to
> Causfornia.  There are facilities and a parking lot at the top
> of Pilot Mountain.   The first time I made it to the top on the 3MM I
> rode over to a guy sitting on a bench and asked him to kick the c...@p
> out of me so I would never do it again.   But I did and he didn't.
> Tony and I are toying with the idea of parking at the top of Pilot and
> starting the ride there thus forcing everyone to climb Pilot at the end of
> the ride to get back to the cars.  Machiavellian, aren't we?
>
> 5. All that being said don't let me scare you off -  "you can do it!"
> I have done it - several times.  Some suggestions though.  a) You will need
> proper gearing.  A compact crankset with a climbing  gear on the cassette,
> such as a 25 or 27 tooth, is the minimum in my opinion.  A triple is better.
> One time I put a mountain bike derailleur, longer chain and "pie pan" (34
> tooth) gear on the cassette on my road bike to give me a nice, low climbing
> gear.  b) Know your ability.  Pace yourself throughout the ride and
> especially on the three mountain climbs.  You should  have the experience
> and common sense to ride at your own tempo.  Everyone will have a different
> tempo and it is important you find and ride yours.  Don't try to chase down
> or ride with someone faster and stronger than you on the climbs.  You will
> bonk - I promise.  c) Be aware of cramping.  If you are susceptible to
> cramps on long climbs (like me) drink the proper amount of fluids and take
> supplements you know work.  I have used Lava salts with some success.
> Others may have their favorite potions to recommend.  d) It is OK to rest on
> the climbs.  Just find a place to pull off the road and rest.  I promise we
> won't call you names (at least until we are on the way back to Raleigh).
> Getting started again on a steep incline is another matter, one I will let
> you figure out and experience on your own.  e) Be careful on the descents -
> you will pick up speed rapidly and the switchbacks can come at you in a
> hurry and surprise you (false cambers, oncoming traffic, etc.).  Make sure
> your brakes are in good shape.  One lesson I learned is to feather my front
> and back brakes alternately to allow the rims to stay cool.  It is possible
> to flat by overheating the rims.  Tony knows about that.  f) You will get
> very tired and need to make an extra effort to stay attentive to the road
> conditions, other riders and traffic.
>
> The good news is all of the mountain climbs are up and back down
> (loops) so you can ride part of the climb or skip it entirely and wait for
> everyone at the bottom.  So come with us and enjoy some of the "high
> country."
>
> Gary
>
> On Apr 5, 8:18 am, "Tony" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > G's,
>
> > Bert and I have scheduled a date for our spring mountain ride.
>
> > Date is Saturday, May 15th.  Mark your calendars!
>
> > For all of you newbie Gyros, we have done this over the last 4 years
> > in preparation for upcoming mountain rides.
>
> > This year we'll make our trip to Sauratown, Hanging Rock and Pilot
> > Mountains.
>
> > The plan is the same as in the past.  We'll meet at the Kohl's Store in
> Brier Creek early Saturday morning (6am), carpool to Pilot Mountain, have
> breakfast along the way, ride the course TOGETHER, and eat dinner on the
> return trip.  So, if you haven't figured it out, this is a one day
> excursion.
>
> > This is an A ride but B's are also welcome to join in IF you can get
> > enough to establish a group.  The point here is to ride and stay together.
>
> > On every climb, the philosophy will be every man for himself but we
> regroup at the bottom and will continue our trek to the next climb.  What's
> nice about this is that you do not have to do every mountain or if you make
> it up part way and realize that the task at hand is just too great, turn
> around and meet everyone at the bottom.
>
> > I believe the course is around 55 miles.
>
> > It's a great time and a fantastic workout for those of you that are doing
> Blood, Sweat and Gears or the 3 Mountain Madness.
>
> > We have had many Gyros do this in the past so we expect a great turnout
> this year too.
>
> > If you are interested, we would like to get a head count so please email
> me, OFFLINE, to let me know.
>
> > If the weather looks iffy or too many Gyros have this date already
> reserved, we'll reschedule for a Saturday in June.
>
> > More information will come as we get closer.
>
> > Thanks, Tony
>
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