As the old saying goes, "you can't gouge out your mind's eye...."


----- Original Message ----- From: "Itchn2go - Ed" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 5:48 PM
Subject: RE: [Gyros: 15203] Re: For Saturday A Group Riders


What a picture that is....we really need that.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Logan
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 5:36 PM
To: North Raleigh Cyclists (Gyros)
Subject: [Gyros: 15201] Re: For Saturday A Group Riders

HA! Id probably have better luck coming to your house tonight and
having you give me a massage.  Now that I think about it where are my
keys...

On Apr 16, 5:32 pm, "Tony" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Logan,
>
> I agree that we will need to see who sows up tomorrow and we have 25
miles
> to consider how it'll play out. It'll be fun trying though. If we need
to
> cut down the time, we will.
>
> As far as you being tired, I've heard that story before. Remember, you
came
> into the store Tuesday and complained about how tired you were because
you
> did the 4 humps on Monday. If I remember correctly, you were one of 3
> riders who came in first Tuesday night. Relax tonight, have your wife
give
> you a massage and you'll be ready to go tomorrow.
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Logan" <[email protected]>
> To: "North Raleigh Cyclists (Gyros)" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 5:03 PM
> Subject: [Gyros: 15199] Re: For Saturday A Group Riders
>
> I love you Rick. Im not afraid to say it.
>
> But I was thinking about this game, Tony, and Im not sure your numbers
> are fair. 1 1/2 min is a long time especially if you put the top 4 in
> the break. I cant see anyone catching the 3 or 4 of the strongest
> riders with that much of a gap. Perhaps you should lower it to 45
> seconds and 2 strong riders and 1 medium rider. Perhaps leaving one of
> the strongest in the chase would be a good idea. That person could
> then take up the slack if the pace is dropping, perhaps doing a longer/
> stronger pull to give the others a chance to rest.
>
> I guess we'll see who shows up tomorrow too. It would complicate
> things if some of the HG guys showed up.
>
> To be honest and not modest Im not sure where I will be tomorrow as
> far as strength. Ive got 15 hours in this week and Im pretty damn
> tired.
>
> On Apr 16, 4:31 pm, <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Do you gibe, oh insolent one?
>
> > Setting aside the verisimilitude of your bold claim, please be
cognizant
> > of the mutability inherent within it.
>
> > A syllogism: Rick takes hard pull; Logan takes harder pull = Logan
gets
> > dropped.
>
> > The celerity of Rick's move proved too much for our droll youngster.
>
> > (Tony and Bert are not going to be happy with this discourse. We are
> > creating a climate "inimical to health", is what they are thinking, I
am
> > sure.)
>
> > Don't worry. Fatique will take the alacrity out of us...
>
> > -- Logan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > If it makes you feel better Rick Ill go to the front before range
and
> > > then attack anyway.
>
> > > On Apr 16, 11:35 am, <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Tony,
>
> > > > I'll tell you how this is going to play out.
>
> > > > As we approach the "Cat and Mouse" zone there will be a slowing
> > > > because no one will want to be at the front as we close in on
Range.
> > > > Those who plan on attacking will take cover at the back, those who
> > > > want to be in the chase will mark the studs, and those hoping not
to
> > > > get dropped will begin energy conservation.
>
> > > > Well, gang, this is not going to happen. I am still riding myself
into
> > > > some kind of cycling condition, and since I threw my chain on
Tuesday
> > > > I lost some valuable training. What this means is that I need to
> > > > suffer to succeed. I will not allow the pace to slow as we head
toward
> > > > Range. In fact, I plan on taking a hard pull to keep the
contenders
> > > > honest.
>
> > > > Just make sure that you all wait for me at Range and Moriah after
I
> > > > flame out!!
>
> > > > Rick
>
> > > > ---- Tony <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > AG's (A Gyros),
>
> > > > > We are going to try to do something different to spice things up
a
> > > > > bit on Saturday. Instead of doing the "Open Play" like we've
done in
> > > > > the past, we'll try something a bit more organized and team goal
> > > > > oriented.
>
> > > > > We are going to do a little Cat & Mouse.
>
> > > > > Here is the plan. Bert came up with a great route for this to
take
> > > > > place.
>
> > > > > At 25.5 miles we make a left turn on Range Road. For those of
you
> > > > > who have been on this stretch before, it is a rolling section of
> > > > > smooth road with a slight incline making it perfect for a
breakaway
> > > > > for 3-4 of our strongest riders. to the intersection of Range &
Enon
> > > > > Roads is 5 miles. With about a 1 1/2 minute lead, the rest of
the
> > > > > group will work together to bring back the breakaway. That
should
> > > > > give the chase group about 4 1/2 miles to catch the breakaway.
>
> > > > > Depending on the number of riders we have, we'll either do a
double
> > > > > or single paceline with short pulls. Remember, THIS IS NOT
"EVERY
> > > > > MAN FOR HIMSELF." We work together as a team, form a chase group
and
> > > > > reel in the breakaway.
>
> > > > > Now, the 3-4 man group may drop some of their own in trying to
keep
> > > > > us at bay. We may do the same. That's the nature of the game.
>
> > > > > Think of this section like a Tuesday night Rick ride where we
are
> > > > > working hard but working together to keep the pace up high.
(Well,
> > > > > maybe not that crazy)
>
> > > > > We also may not succeed in catching the breakaway so instead of
> > > > > regrouping at the intersection of Range & Enon Roads, the
breakaway
> > > > > should continue to the next intersection of Range & Moriah
Roads.
> > > > > That's a total of 9 miles. (God, I hope we can catch them before
the
> > > > > Range/Enon intersection).
>
> > > > > If we have not caught them by then, Range & Moriah with be the
point
> > > > > at which we will regroup and ride the next 5-6 miles to the rest
> > > > > stop in Moriah.
>
> > > > > So this chase could actually last as long as 9 miles depending
on
> > > > > how strong our Gyro A Supermen are in keeping the main chase
group
> > > > > away.
>
> > > > > If this turns out to be successful we will incorporate this Cat
&
> > > > > Mouse in our future rides.
>
> > > > > See you all on Saturday.
>
> > > > > (Hmmm, I wonder who will want to volunteer to be in the
breakaway
> > > > > group of 3-4 riders?)
>
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