At 8:11 PM +0100 10/29/08, Oerjan Ariander wrote:
>
>Yes, the .50 sniper rifles can fire SLAP. Unfortunately doing so with the
>muzzle brake still attached to the weapon will usually result in the muzzle
>brake being ripped apart, which is why firing SLAP from the M107 sniper
>rifle is specifically prohibited :-/ (If you remove the muzzle brake the
>rifle will survive firing SLAP, but OTOH your shoulder might not like it
>that much...)

That's why I said they couldn't fire SLAP. "repeatability" is a fundamental and 
implicit point. ;-)

Personally I don't want to be anywhere NEAR anything with as much energy as a 
.50 BMG where there's issues with things coming off the Muzzel. Not unless I've 
got a nice THICK armoured glass panel between me and the weapon.

> >Were they testing the API or AP rounds?
>
>Doubtful. 

>You might be surprised at how badly AP penetrators can behave in water.
>Being homogenous gives surprisingly little protection against breaking up :-(

Well, in high speed ballistics test on things like steel core ammo vs expanding 
ammo, the steel core stuff doesn't do all that much. Look at how a 7.62x51 
bullet behaves in a block of gelatin vs a smaller faster round. I suspect it's  
also going to depend on where the core is as compared to the Lead. Is the Steel 
'core' out front backed up by the lead (not really a core?) or is it a 
different round with the steel core along the entire length? How solid is the 
jacket? Where the weight is as compared to the ogive of the bullet will affect 
how it behaves.

I expect a number of AP types will just start yawing and loosing energy as they 
go through the water. Too deep and it's going to loose too much energy, 
regardless of fragmentation or not. I'm sure there's a sweet spot where the 
rounds will still have enough energy to punch holes below the water line and 
keep on trucking into the lower part of the other side.

Either way, being in anything short of an Armoured Cruiser or purpose built 
armoured Monitor while someone fires .50 BMG at it is NOT my idea of a good 
place to be. If all I have is an RPG or an AK, I'm going to call it a VERY bad 
day.

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