Hello All,
I've done masks and am looking at making some 1920s style dresses for this
summer. I know from looking at fashion plates and fashion magazines that the
shift dress just grazes the body which strikes me as just what I will need this
summer. Two things I could use help with for this ongoing project. Assuming
things calm down I have a nephew getting married in September and another
nephew getting married in October. Does anyone have a link to a good image or
pattern of a dressier style of 1920s dress suitable for a wedding? And secondly
I am a DD or DDD cup and don't want to wear a minimizing undergarment. Did
1920s shift dresses have any darts for shaping? Where would the darts be and
what type of closure would be used and where would it be if the dress can't be
put off and on over the head? I'm reasonably comfortable with the type of dart
manipulation and addition that was used in the 1950s but I'd love a good
pattern to start from for the 1920s. And any ideas on decoration? I have an
embroidery machine so I could do some decoration but don't have any idea about
Art Deco designs. I've watched through the Phryne Fisher series and I've read
the articles from the Vintage Dancer. I do want to look my age, which is late
50s, so the gorgeous flapper beading doesn't seem right for my age and daytime
weddings that I'm hoping to go to this fall.
Cassandra On Friday, May 8, 2020, 02:16:01 PM CDT,
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3. Masks, etc. (Lavolta Press)
4. Re: Masks (Mijauww)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 12:48:21 -0700
From: Lavolta Press <[email protected]>
To: Historical Costume <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Masks etc.
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It's not clear the California orders *were* rescinded. They merely took
them off the website with a vague statement about "California values."
There is no official triage statement right now that I know of. Before,
if I recall, there was an ascending order of denying treatment. The most
likely group to be denied was everyone over 70, the next most likely
group those 60-70. There was a points system, used in many places, but
being older is a main factor. Various diseases and disabilities also
count against you.
The reality is that triage is going on everywhere the hospitals are
overloaded. Sometimes they give those denied care a morphine drip
(palliative care). Sometimes they just send them home. There have been a
lot of articles about triage in the news. Doctors want official triage
guidelines so they don't even need to make individual assessments of
patients. And they often get them, sometimes from the state, sometimes
from their hospital.
Fran
Lavolta Press
www.lavoltapress.com
On 5/6/2020 10:52 AM, Sharon Collier wrote:
> OMG, I wasn't aware that care was being denied to older patients? I'm, 65,
> but my mom is 97. If I got her genes, I can look forward to another 30 years.
> Having someone say I don't get treatment because I'm "too old" is ridiculous.
> No doctor can tell by age how many years a person has left. I'm glad they
> rescinded those orders, but what moron approved them in the first place?
> Sharon
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 13:10:55 -0700
From: Lavolta Press <[email protected]>
To: Historical Costume <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [h-cost] masks
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My husband and I deal with our linen masks by just not ironing them
after they are washed.
The other problem with the studies is they assume the person must use
fabrics a non-sewer has in the household. T-shirts, dish towels, pillow
cases. Even though many of the mask *patterns* have instructions that
use sewing machines. . . Anyway, a person who sews will have at least
some fabric yardage on hand and is aware that a fiber is not the same
thing as a weave or a thread count. Also that old, used fabric is likely
to be thinner in places.
Though one of the better suggestions I saw was to use the kind of pillow
cases sold to protect against dust mites. They did not mention that
there are similar cases for mattresses which would enable you to make
more masks.
Fran
Lavolta Press
www.lavoltapress.com
On 5/5/2020 10:37 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> 4. I am using a densely woven linen because of its superior ability to absorb
> moisture and its ability to withstand being washed at very high temperatures;
> the downside is having to iron it dry but we are all used to ironing.
>
> I hope this is of some use; best wishes to you all.
>
> Stevie
> -----------------------------
>
> I think the biggest problem with all the studies done on which fabrics work
> best is that none of the people doing them seem to really know anything about
> the different fabrics.
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 16:04:30 -0700
From: Lavolta Press <[email protected]>
To: Historical Costume <[email protected]>
Subject: [h-cost] Masks, etc.
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I find the triage guidelines--and actual practices--that I have seen
described anywhere, and medical discussions thereof, very disturbing.
Some are posited as caring for the patients most likely to survive.
However, doctors are not omniscient. Overloaded hospitals are spending
very little time with individual patients. For example, they are
supposed to check and adjust ventilator settings often. In this
situation, they don't. Covid-19 and its treatment are not well known
yet. Doctors don't actually have a great grasp of who is most likely to
survive.
Worse, it's clear that in an overloaded hospital, very few patients can
legitimately be written off as very, very old and/or already in the grip
of clearly fatal conditions aside from Covid-19. Then triage gets to
things like "value to society." Which is apparently sometimes determined
as paid work, not volunteering, and not any other kind of value like
being loved and needed by an elderly spouse. Or "number of years left
to live." My father lived into his mid 80s. My mother lived into her mid
90s. Some of my former coworkers died in their 50s or even their 40s.
Unless the person already has some other really nasty condition, there's
no way doctors can know what a lifespan will be. Or "quality of life."
I'm healthy and my quality of life is just fine. It's also just fine
for many people who have various conditions such as diabetes but who,
with treatment for that, are getting along well. I won't even get into
the disabilities strikes against treating people, which I know less
about. But they exist. Some doctors have even publicly said, everyone's
going to die anyway, so what does it matter if you die now?
I have seen many doctors assert that as long as triage guidelines are
transparent--which often they are not--that people will accept them.
The only guidelines I'd accept for myself or a loved one are a fair
lottery. But then, doctors say they can't do that because they might end
up treating a few people who are very, very old and in the grip of some
other fatal disease.
I've always assumed my "value to society"--and that of most other
people--is about average. Which is fine. I am deeply offended by the
many public statements that a person younger than 60 or 65 is
automatically "worth more." I am the same person I was when I was
64--even 59. My state of health is the same, as far as I know. I have
no way of testing my immune system, but I don't seem to be especially
prone to catching diseases in general. Because Covid-19 is highly
contagious, well, that's another story.
I'm staying inside, but it's impossible for neither of us to avoid
picking up groceries and so on. Whenever my husband or I gets a cold,
the other one always catches it. I can't figure out whether I should get
a BCAP machine (if I even can) and a baby monitor (which some people use
to check on ill members in the household frequently without entering the
sickroom). I did buy a pulse oximeter early on. Also a stack of paper
plates and plastic utensils to use if one of us becomes ill. My take
is, you're pretty much on your own here.
I also believe signing a Do not resuscitate
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_not_resuscitate> order is a very bad
idea. I have no firm information on this, but in this situation I
suspect it's often interpreted as "don't give me a ventilator."
Fran
Lavolta Press
www.lavoltapress.com
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 8 May 2020 13:55:10 +0200
From: Mijauww <[email protected]>
To: Historical Costume <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Masks
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Hi Monica,
Yes, I caught on to the needle problem fairly fast. And also discovered
that the machine was made for one thickness thread and that was it. The
machine wasn't broken after all it was a thread and needle problem. With
that fixed I made some masks and then it really didn't want to play.
This time the machine broke down because the wheel that lifts the needle
fell off. I need to get a grip and open the machine again to see what went
wrong and if it can be fixed. Or finally fix the hand cranked one 😏 I hand
sew as a rule, so fixing the machines tend to be ignored most of the time.
And then I need it 😂
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On Thu, 7 May 2020 at 20:01, Monica <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am sorry to interrupt here, since I post only once in a decade... Have
> you changed your needle? I work with my great-aunt's legacy Singer from
> 1957. If it gets cranky I try the needle. Run your thumbnail down the
> needle and if it catches on the sharp end it needs to be replaced. I made
> costumes for the Nutcracker in December and regularly make 16th C. clothing
> on it and it got plenty cranky!
>
> Monica
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: h-costume <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mijauww
> Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 11:25 AM
> To: Historical Costume <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Masks
>
> Hi,
> I tried the material combination Jennie told us about and will be sticking
> to that after we both tested wearing it outside for 3 hours each.
> And ppl actually kept some distance too. Possibly because they looked more
> professional than some of my early attempts.😂
>
> The one thing we both agreed on no matter what material I used, was that a
> wire over the nose and under the eyes worked best. It keeps the hot breath
> from blowing into your eyes. And once you have shaped it to fit the lower
> part of your nose, you don't need to keep adjusting because the mask slips.
> You reshape every time you go out of the house with a clean mask.
> What works best for us is shaping around the lower half of the nose and
> adjusting the wire in a slight curve under the eyes. Easy to adjust for
> glasses too.
>
> My local hardware chain sells aluminium wire with a thickness of 1.5-2 mm.
> Easy to shape , you can wash and re-wash and doesn't break easily. I have
> been testing using the wire in different mask shapes and fabrics. I insert
> the wire into bias tape at the top of the mask, making sure the wire is on
> the outside of all the layers (otherwise it hurts). After having the wire
> work i'ts way out through the fabric a few times, I bent the ends. A few
> stitches at each end keeps the wire in place. 10 cm/ 4 inches works better
> than covering the whole top as far as comfort goes and still keeps hot
> breath out of our eyes.
>
> And who would have thought that making masks would kill my sewing machine?
> Even sewing tents didn't. Mind you, it is considered an antique sort off.
> It is from around 1970, can only sew straight and zigzag. Has a breakdown
> if I try using any kind of thread that isn't standard sewing thread
> thickness and considers sewing more that one spool of under-thread as rude
> demands. 😂
>
> Gunvor
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