From: "Elizabeth Walpole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Cant exactly buy them 'round here, tho, can we?  Guess most wil make
>> do with reed, "woode and wyre".  Now, Tokyo, whalebone's fair game.  I
>> can even recommend a shop.
>Really? I was under the impression that baleen only came from the larger
>whales, I thought Minky whales had proper teeth?

Japanese whalers fish in international waters and are not restricted
to their own.  Outside the 250mi territorial limits established by
many treaties ships can fish, trawl, whale & launch satellites w/o
govt foldeerol.

My own "woode and wyre" comment was excessive paraphrasing intending
to point to Elizabethan commentators like these:

William Jones provided "xii Buskes of Whalebone and wyer covered with
sarceonet  quilted" . --Great Wardrobe Accounts, 1586, as cited in
Janet Arnold, QEWU.

"Fastidious men, as well as ladies, wore these 'whalebone bodyes for
the better grace.'"  --Channing M. Linthicum, Costume in the Drama of
Shakespeare and His Contemporaries (Oxford: Clarendon, 1936), p. 178.

"English burgher women usually wear … Instead of whalebone, they wear
a broad circular piece of wood over the breast to keep the body
straighted and more erect. English women of the nobility dress very
similarly to the French except for very long stomachers." --Thomas
Platter, Travels in England, 1599.

My point here was that the original poster who ask about reeds also
had some other options.
--cin
Cynthia Barnes
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