I didn't take a class, but did attempt to do some tambour using instructions from a book I purchased at Lacis. I too am usually adept at such work, good with my hands and patient at handwork.

I found tambour exceedingly difficult, was very unhappy with my progress and eventually abandoned the project in favor of hand beading.

I may try again, but it's really difficult, at least for me. It's oddly reassuring to hear a similar story.

angela
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Downward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Tambour embroidery


And there's the thing, Julie. You're managing the fabric, placement of
the "vicious hook" which is just big enough to get stuck on threads
while going back through the fabric, the thread (separate from the
hook) in your left hand, and the beads. that's what makes it so hard
for my brain. I can't juggle all those things at once. You're right
about the chain stitched on the wrong side of the fabric, which is
facing you. You have the thread and most of the beads on top of the
fabric and just the extra thread and some beads below while working.
You learn with practice to rotate the hook "just right" so it gets
through the fabric without catching, but it takes a bit of practice,
like crochet with a fish hook.

The size of the hook used is dependent on the weave of the ground
cloth. We used a really tiny hook while working on netting; we used a
larger one while working on linen and the largest size while working
on osnaburg. Contrary to logic, neither the larger hook nor the
smallest hook was easier to use. You know how one is taught to crochet
using a large hook with fat yarn; that logic doesn't help here.

i just reread what I wrote. Very negative. I had a terrible time with
tambour. I was only one person in a class of 8-10; most everyone else
managed to learn and enjoy the process. I only learned it.

LynnD

On 9/29/05, Julie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm wondering just what *is* tambour embroidery. I have a series of needles in assorted sizes that I can put into a handle, run thread through the needle and up the hollow body of the handle and do what I was told was punch embroidery or Russian embroidery.

I also have a tambour hook. It looks like a crochet hook on a solid wooden handle but has a vicious point on the head of it. I don't see where the thread would go with this one. I thought it was worked from the wrong side of the fabric and the thread (and beads) run across the front of the fabric. You make chain stitched on the wrong side that's facing you.

Which is what?  And is either one found before 1600?

Thanks
Julie

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