Bjarne, I'd love this pattern as well.  I'm leaning more and more towards the 
later periods in fashion (as opposed to the SCA periods) and actually want to 
start making the garments.

I've already bought all the McCain patterns and have the materials for these. 
But I don't have a mantua pattern...

Elena/Gia

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> Hi Michaela 
> 
> I have the pattern cut for this mantua also if you are interrested. From the 
> small catalogue womens fashion from 1600 1750. I baught this many years ago 
> on Victoria & Albert, my very first visit to London. 
> Let me know if i can help you with this. 
> 
> Bjarne 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "michaela" 
> To: "Historical Costume" 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 2:51 AM 
> Subject: Re: [h-cost] source for 1700-1710 Mantua 
> 
> 
> >> The English mantua you refer to is in a book 
> >> called "18th Century Women's Costume at Blaise 
> >> Castle House" by Helen Burnett and Cleo Witt. 
> >> Printed by Bristol City Museum. However, the 
> >> mantua is dated c.1738-41. It still has its matching petticoat. 
> > 
> > I just found my livejournal with my list of extant early mantua (as 
> > opposed 
> > to the very stylised later mantua) and found the book I had seen it in: 
> > http://www.livejournal.com/users/pinkdiamond/334570.html 
> > Title: Women's costumes 1600-1750, [by] Zillah Halls. 
> > Published: London, H.M.S.O., 1969. 
> > Other Author(s): Halls, Zillah. 
> > I didn't manage to snaffle the date of the mantua but I can read the date 
> > of 
> > the stomacher as being 1720-30. The petticoat looks to be a quilted tube 
> > basically. 
> > The text I can make out says: 
> > "... open robe worn over a separate corset and separate skirt was 
> > established. The elaborately-arranged skirt, pinned or buttoned back, is 
> > occasionally though not frequently found throughout the first half of the 
> > 18th century; there are four examples in the London Museum." 
> > (view of the back of the mantua and petticoat) 
> > "13 stomacher 1720-30, (no.[??]) 
> > The stomacher was a separate triangular piece, usually embroidered, which 
> > filled the space in the front of the bodice." 
> > (view of the front of the Mantua, pettcoat and stomacher. 
> > 
> > I adore this example. It's so very simple but effective. The stomacher has 
> > a 
> > fine pattern embroidered with horizontal lines. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Unfortunately the image on the Sally Queen and Associates page has gone, I 
> > think it is in the 2000 calendar. I'm going to email to ask if this is so. 
> > I 
> > seem to recall it being in the colletcion of the Royal Ontaria Museum, but 
> > there is no info on their site. 
> > 
> > 
> > regards, 
> > michaela de bruce 
> > http://costumes.glittersweet.com 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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