Thanks for all the replies! After perusing a lot of paintings it looks like the bodice is attached; the front piece seems to detach entirely, (Thank you Lucretia paintings!); skirt part laces up the front, (Most likely); back neckline appears to vary greatly in depth from almost backless to fairly high across the shoulder blades. I'm unsure about the pleating. Some sites insist on cartridge pleating but not all the paintings look like cartridge pleats. I'm thinking the front piece (Top part) is held in place with hook & eyes while the bottom is laced from side to side through concealed lacing rings. Now another question, many of the portraits have a bodice style that while still having the piece in front also have a high collar. Could you make a jacket without sleeves rather than making 2 dresses, one with the collar and one without? I have seen what looks like a capelet with a high collar that gives much the same effect. Thanks Jean/Raella
Diana Habra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > << I'm doing some research on the german "Cranach" dress style. I would > love > to hear thoughts, ideas, websites etc. for a. Bodice: attached or not, b. > is > there a band of fabric from shoulder to shoulder at the back that is > edited > out of most paintings (But is often seen in the German housebook for > example). c. closure in the side front? d. corset or no?>> > > > Ooh boy, can o worms here we come;) > > Seriously this style of dress is not as easily understood as many because > we > have to rely so much on artwork of the time, which as anyone knows is not > an > infallable method of understanding fine detail;) > > That said, there is a lot we can say about the Saxon court style based on > paintings and woodcuts. > > Closure: I have never seen any example of back fastening, nor indeed a > centre back seam in any of the artwork I've seen*. This was something I found as well...I was trying to find examples of woodcuts for a class I was teaching that showed a center back seam. And page after page showed me nothing. One lady said she had a woodcut with side back seams but when I asked if she would share it with me, she didn't know where it was. I found a couple of side seams but NO back seams. When I re-worked my pattern without the center back seam, it worked just fine (the center back seam was straight anyway). Another thing I noticed was that there were no seams at the top of the armhole. My theory is that there really is a seam there but the trim placed over the top doesn't have one and it hides the seam underneath. And after I patterned it out, it is possible to cut the trim that goes down the front of the bodice and around the back of the neckline in one piece. Without sending you a picture, I can't explain it in words. But it can be done! (If anyone wants a picture and example of how I do it, e-mail me offline.) I just wanted to validate Michaela's comments.... Diana www.RenaissanceFabrics.net "Everything for the Costumer" _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list [email protected] http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume "Only the mediocre are always at their best" --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list [email protected] http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
