At 23:59 30/11/2005, you wrote:
Quoting Suzi Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

At 22:33 30/11/2005, you wrote:
Can someone point us to an online pic to see what it is you are all talking about? Sounds very interesting.
Thanks,
Sg


When I use epaulettes I put in the sleeves in the normal way. I make up the epaulettes as complete units, and sew them on to the sleeve head seam from the underneath, so you don't see the stitching. Saves an awful lot of layers!



Never seen pictures of it - the first time I did it, it just made sense, and I just always do it. Maybe I read it in Arnold - I've been doing it so long I forget now. I frequently put the sleeves to the body by binding both the armhole and the sleeve head, then whip stitching them together. The epaulette covers that!

Any chance that we could "understand" what it is that you do by looking
at some close-up photos of a finished gown?



Very possibly, but I don't have finished gowns, as I am a costume maker and sell what I make! I don't bother to take closeup photos, as I don't need them. If I am teaching, it's show and tell, so no teaching examples, and I don't draw! I am not being very helpful here, am I?

It is an instruction from Hunnisett, the 1500-1800 book, but there are no pictures of it or the sleeve application. If you make up the epaulette, however you like, bagging out, turning the edges together and stitching, so you have a thing that is completely finished. You have the sleeve sewn into the sleeve head. Then you put the curved edge of the epaulette just to the shoulder side of the sleeve seam, and either stab stitch it from the right side, or fold it back over the shoulder and stitch it from the underside. When you fold it back into place, you then do not see the stitching. (or you cover it with braid, like "they" did!)

Is that any clearer?

Suzi

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