> I don't know if the sleeve drape was like a lower circle sewn
> on, like
> you see on some young women's sleeves today, or if it was
> another sleeve
> like the angle-wing ones. This particular picture seems like
> it must be
> more like the circle-on-the-sleeve sort, but the TRH ones look a bit
> more like another big houp sleeve.
FYI, there is a Italian (I think) style (a bit earlier then the time of the
Tres Riche Hours) that has what looks like circles attached to/acting as the
cuffs of the gothic fitted dress's sleeves. There is a picture in _Parades et
Parures_ by Odile Blanc. (it's the front piece. For those of you who read
French [not me] the description is:
1. La seduction detournant de l'etude. Alors que le corps feminin reste enclos
dans une veture continue et monochrome, la parure masculine rend le corps a une
diversite des formes et des couleurs.
(I had to drop all the accents - I hope it's still decipherable) Elsewhere in
the book it attributes the picture to Boccace, "Des clereset nobles femmes".
Page 59, 125, 173, 185 and 217 all show other pictures from the same manuscript
(all of which give different views of the bell-cuffs. The last one shows a
gothic fitted dress with the cuffs, without the houpelande). Page 193 also
gives a picture of a long bell-cuff from a different manuscript, the "Bible
historiale", no author given.
It is my believe that this is a separate style from the "angle-wing" under
sleeves you see in Tres Riche.
-sunny
Following on the discussion of this link:
http://www.rijksmuseum.nl/images/aria/sk/z/sk-c-1454.z
P.S. 2: I can't seem to find a link to an illumination of Boccaccio,
"Concerning Famous Women" on line (which is what I'm guessing the translation
of "Des clereset nobles femmes" is)
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