Yes.  Thanks for the clarification.
I think that if the sleeves aren't part of a shirt, they'd either tie onto
the armscye of the partlet, or *perhaps* the gown.  Corset hadn't occured to
me though...what led you to think of that?
--Sue

----- Original Message -----
From: "otsisto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 9:59 PM
Subject: RE: [h-cost] Tudor roses


> Oops, I need to clarify. Yes the puffs are fake from my interpretation of
> the painting. I was trying through a fogged brain (still a bit fogged) to
> say the "epaulette"(?) or the sleeve section with the poofs coming out is
> attached to the gown bodice and the embroidered sleeves which I believe
are
> detachable are tied onto either the corset or the arms eye of the gown's
> bodice.
> Does this make any sense?
> De
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Oh, how interesting! I always figured the puffs were faked, since they
show
> no signs of embroidery....
> --Sue
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> > In my interpretation of the portrait, I believe that the puffed sections
> are
> > attached to the bodice and the rose embroidered sleeves are detachable.
> But
> > others have interpreted the what I believe is a partlet and sleeves to
be
> a
> > shirt.


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