>--- Suzi Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>The polonaising also doesn't seem right to me. A polonaise on an >>English robe, yes, but on a sack? I've been looking through what >>books I can lay my hands on, and I haven't yet seen a sack-backed >>gown that is polonaised. The polonaise also isn't deep enough. > >Regarding the polonaising only - not had time to check out the other >stuff - there are at least two polonaised sacks in collections that I >have seen, one in Bath, and one in the Museum of London. Also I am >sure there are many sketches/fashion plates showing this, usually in >the 1770's. I think the French artist Moreau le Jeune shows this, but >they may be retroussee dans les poches, which gives a similar look.
Of course, now that you've said that, I think I *do* remember seeing pictures of polonaised sacks - or they may have been retroussee dans les poches, too. ( Blame up-too-late-at-night brain. ) But, if a gown was polonaised, weren't they usually polonaised at/from the back, not pulling the gown back from the centre front, as this one is? That is probably the thing which is most wrong about this gown, and made me think that an attempt had been made to alter it to suit a fashion from approx. 100 years later. http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/101523900/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/101523898/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/101523897/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/101523896/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/101523899/ Actually, now I come to think about it a bit more, I wonder if it is just that the sellers don't understand where the skirt should be draped from to make the polonaise, so that instead of pulling the skirt up from the back, they pulled it back from the front. Hmmmmm.... I still would really like to have a good look at this gown in the flesh ( as it were ) or failing that, on a dress dummy that is the right size, height, and shape for it. And with the skirt polonaised the right way. :-) Joannah ~*~ Practice random acts of kindness, and senseless acts of beauty. ~*~ _____________________________________________________________ Sluggy.Net: The Sluggy Freelance Community! _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list [email protected] http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
