More short sleeved 15th century images.... http://gallica.bnf.fr/scripts/mediator.exe?F=C&L=08100001&I=000017 (parent page http://gallica.bnf.fr/scripts/Notice.php?O=08100001)
http://gallica.bnf.fr/scripts/mediator.exe?F=C&L=08100062&I=000003 (parent page http://gallica.bnf.fr/scripts/Notice.php?O=08100062) http://classes.bnf.fr/ema/grands/399.htm http://classes.bnf.fr/ema/grands/ca066.htm http://classes.bnf.fr/ema/feuils/ages/index2.htm http://classes.bnf.fr/ema/grands/182.htm Good luck... -annette -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hope Greenberg Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 8:42 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] short sleeved kirtle {was Princess Elizabeth} There are several images of working women in the DaCosta Hours who are wearing the short sleeve/protective sleeve combo. Here they are: http://www.uvm.edu/%7Ehag/sca/work/index.html And as Suzi added, quite a few late 15th century versions of short sleeved gowns. Here are some (scroll down to the "kirtle" section). I notice this has become a very popular look in SCA/Ren Faire circles. http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/15th/ I agree with you about that multi-panel skirt--fascinating! Here's a bit of a close-up: http://www.uvm.edu/%7Ehag/sca/15th/weyden2.jpg (A couple examples of the odd hat as well.) Though I don't have scans of them, there are a couple non-Italian 15th cent. depictions of women in sleeveless gowns. One was either Netherlandish or German--a woman attending the birth of the Virgin Mary--but I'll have to go look it up. - Hope Kimiko wrote: >> Hmmmm... maybe I am putting 2+3 and getting 7 here, but could this >> image below be an example of a short sleeved kirtle with an attached >> sleeve? Suzi Clarke added: > http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/m/michele/index.html > And there are several short sleeved garments in paintings by Rogier van > der Weyden, c. 1450, one of which clearly shows the pin holding the > sleeve on, although this may actually be from the shoulder strap. > http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/weyden/magdalen.jpg > The Descent from the Cross (huge, in the Prado in Madrid. She is wearing > what looks like a gown made from oblongs of wool - quite fascinating- I > spent ages in front of it and still haven't worked it out!). (Also > called the Deposition from the Cross) > http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/weyden/decent.jpg _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list [email protected] http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list [email protected] http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
