And just to confuse things, Catherine II is definitely riding astride in this painting in the 1700's.

<http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Equestrian-Portrait-of-Catherine-II -1729-96-the-Great-of-Russia-Posters_i1348988_.htm>>

Susan

"Slow down. The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail. Travel
too fast and you miss all you are traveling for".  - "Ride the Dark
Trail" by Louis L'Amour

On Mar 8, 2006, at 9:41 AM, Karen R Bergquist wrote:

I'm not an expert on equestrian costume or riding side-saddle, but I
think these ladies ARE riding side-saddle. I can see the subtle outline
of the right leg wrapped around the saddle horn with the left leg hanging more or less vertically. As for the skirt spreading, I have seen it done.
At Bristol, Mary Kababik, who plays Queen Elizabeth, has ridden in the
main parade on a side-saddle for the last 5 years and with the amount of
fabric in her skirt it looks almost exactly like that. In this painting
the ladies aren't riding perpendicular to the horse, they are riding more
or less parallel wi the horse with their lower body turned slightly to
the side.

Just my ha'penny's worth,

Karen
Seamstrix




On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 19:08:23 -0600 "Diane Maynard"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
I can tell you that that I believe that BOTH of these paintings are
of women
riding ASTRIDE.   These are two of my favorite paintings and I have
duplicated both of these gowns for myself.  It takes a LOT of
material to
make the skirts of these gowns.  If one is riding side-saddle, the
gown will
not "envelope" the hind quarters of the horse the way these gowns
do.  I
side saddle gown will literally hang to the side of the legs
(covering the
legs)and not cover the hindquarters of the horse.

Diane


VELÁZQUEZ, Diego Rodriguez de Silva y
Queen Isabel of Bourbon Equestrian
1634-35
Oil on canvas, 301 x 314 cm
Museo del Prado, Madrid
http://www.wga.hu/art/v/velazque/05/0506vela.jpg

VELÁZQUEZ, Diego Rodriguez de Silva y
Queen Margarita on Horseback
1634-35
Oil on canvas, 297 x 309 cm
Museo del Prado, Madrid
http://www.wga.hu/art/v/velazque/05/0503vela.jpg

It's really hard for me to tell whether they're riding astride or
sidesaddle, but perhaps someone with more equestrian experience
could
venture.




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