A hunting suit like this would have ben worn on special occations like hunting with the king and queen. Masculine fashion like this was only used for hunting. The tricorne, her Steinkirke cravate, the jacket with the big cuffs, the way the buttonholes are worked and all the buttons. At this time when this print was made, women didnt wear tricornes for daily wear, but they wore Fontanges wich are caps with high extended starched laces round the forehead. Also her wig is masculin, a fully bottomed wig with lots of curls, was only worn with this kind of outfit. The only hair shown for ladies this time, was small curls on the forehead just below the fontange. In the back, the hair was hided in a cape. The daily wear uniform for women was the mantua, wich was an open robe with a matching petticoat. Mantua was mostly draped at each hip (lifted up with loops and buttons) Sleaves did have cufs, but these usually was attached by the elbows, where the shift showed. I have seen portraits from this period where women wears a more relaxed style of dress, with t-shaped bodices and loose skirts, wich could be daily wear.

Bjarne
----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Data-Samtak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Equestrian costuming & other period "tack"


Thanks, Kate.

Since I am new to this group, I must have just missed the January
discussion of Sidesaddle and clothing.

Does anyone know if the person doing that research for a paper on
women's equestrian clothing, as mentioned in the archive,  has written
the paper or is it still in progress?

As far as this picture,
<<http://www.costumes.org/history/leloir/vol10/48_1692.jpg >>  what
makes it a riding habit rather than an everyday outfit?  Any hints in
the photo that I should be seeing but don't?

Susan

"Slow down. The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail. Travel
too fast and you miss all you are traveling for". - "Ride the Dark
Trail" by Louis L'Amour

On Mar 9, 2006, at 4:23 AM, Kate M Bunting wrote:

I searched the archive http://sca.uwaterloo.ca/Fashion/ for this year under "hunting" and found the thread. The picture is
http://www.costumes.org/history/leloir/vol10/48_1692.jpg

Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17th century reenactor

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/03/2006 23:20 >>>
Thanks, Kate.

Any one have the link to that print, handy, so I can catch up ?

Susan

"Slow down. The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail. Travel
too fast and you miss all you are traveling for".  - "Ride the Dark
Trail" by Louis L'Amour

On Mar 8, 2006, at 11:56 AM, Kate M Bunting wrote:

We discussed a 17th century print of a lady in a riding habit not long
ago. It was in the 1660s that ladies began to wear habits with the
upper half copying masculine attire.

Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17th century reenactor

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