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I think Bjarne could be right, but I also see a 19th century shirt...the 1st half of it anyway. The shirt becomes what we generally think of as a shirt today [yolk, shaped sleeve heads] in the 2nd half of the 19th century. Before that, a shirt is cut in all rectangular and square pieces.


I've got the pattern in hand, and it is mostly squares. There's slight shaping at the shoulders of the body pieces. Views A and B, the ones with buttons and the one with the ruffle and the book, look a lot like the shirt diagram in Waugh ... minus the shoulder gusset.

The shape of collars really give away the period in the 19th century too. That very high collar with the ends of it near your ears can be found early on in the period till the 1830s and 40s. [You don't seem to get the starched detachable collars till the last half.]

The one in Waugh has a 4" collar, which is what the pattern has. Are you saying the collars in the 1700's would have been a lot narrower than that? She dates the shirt 1700-1810.

Do you know if a ruffle on the front would have been worn early in the 18th century? That's mostly what I was interested in finding out.

The neck stock says mid 19th century to me and I was planning on not using it.


I really hate the laced up the placket "pirate" look.

Agree with you on the laced up look. Ew. FWIW, there are two styles of shirt in the pattern, A&B seem historically based, C&D use different sleeves and collars, no gussets, and so forth.


Dawn

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