Hi Suzi,
Yes, they also steamed the bones in 18th century, acording to Janet Arnold.
I can bend my wissner boning, so that it gets a curved shape, and it works
nicely i think.
Anyway, i replaced the thick 2 mm. bones inside with thinner bones 1mm. Its
the more soft plastic boning i used for them.
And speaking of it, i actually have finished the stays now!
If you would like to have a look:
Next time i have time for it, i think i will try to make a tape dress stand
with a mock up pair of stays inside, to get the right shape. Its so annoying
with the modern dress stands, they are no use at all...........
http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/stays_1740.htm
Dear Sarah, thanks for your very informative informations, ill keep this in
mind!
Bjarne
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Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:19:35 +0100
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Subject: Re: [h-cost] about shaping bones in stays
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At 10:04 25/04/2006, you wrote:
Hi Suzi,
Is this your examin of old stays, that you say they are thin?
When you look at Hogarts prints, and you sometimes see a pair of stays
lying alone on the floor, they are shaped like the body, and i would
say, its the horzontal bones that keep them in shape. Would this not
provide heavier boning?
Not entirely - I have some real whalebone, which dates from the 1940's
probably, and which is very flexible. I think the shape is due to the
construction - maybe the lining is a tiny bit smaller than the outside,
which would cause the "bowed" effect, and the bones are there to
reinforce rather than to actually shape? I have seen corsets that sit in
that shape, but I was not able to handle them at that time.
You could also make the tape that holds the horizontal bones slightly too
short, which would also help to hold the corset in that curved shape.
(Similar to making panniers or bustle, only nowhere near so exaggerated!)
I'll go and look at my photos again, and see if I have any of insides - I
am pretty sure there are some, but they may not be the same style of
corset.
I'm sure I've read somewhere (Corsets and Crinolines perhaps?) about
some 18th century stays being steamed into shape.
Claire
Victorian stays were definitely steamed into shape over a body form. "The
Symington Collection" catalogue, from the Museum in Leicester, shows this
quite clearly. However, I don't remember that 18th century stays were
steamed, but I could be wrong.
Suzi
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