In a message dated 4/29/2006 12:04:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

One  problem that can cause droopy sleeve puffs is that the shoulders
might be a  little too wide, the sleeves should start more on the
shoulder rather than  at or after the turn of the shoulder, that helps
keep them from  drooping. 


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Indeed. Helps distinguish them from the large Gigot sleeves of the 1830s  
which do spring from off the shoulder. But since photography was off and 
running  
even before the 1890s, you can see in photographs all manner of droopy and 
perky  and everything in between in sleeves.
 
There's a fondness for structure in the 1890s...stiff fabrics and heavy  
trims held up by complex underpinnings. The skirt in the pattern sorta suffers  
from not being manipulated enough. I can't tell if she even has a petticoat. It 
 
seems a little too clingy in the hips and not full enough...things that do  
indeed start to happen as the decade wears on. In Janet Arnold you see the  
circular cut of the back of the skirts, achieved in several ways. Sometimes it  
is a big circle or semicircle cut out as one piece even if the fabric needs  
piecing to get a large enough width to do so. Sometimes it is gored. This is  
sewn to a front panel that is shaped to the hips. the whole thing is  usually 
stiffened with something. In Arnold it says buckram....sometimes  innerlining 
the lower half of the front gore and all of the back of the skirt.  I've 
dressed 
extras in real 1890s stuff where the skirt practically stands on  its own.
 
As you move towards the turn of the century, the stiffness starts to wane  
and you end up at that droopy, flowing silhouette in light fabrics of the  
1900s.
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