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1. Re: dvd codes (Elizabeth Walpole)
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 16:05:26 +1000
From: "Elizabeth Walpole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [h-cost] dvd codes
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> Yes!
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> Mine has 4 more switches left.
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> Isn't this all bogus! Just why can't we watch what we want????
Because it means they can cut down competition and therefore make more
profit. And why should they care about their customers? :-P
Elizabeth
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 01:25:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kathy Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [h-cost] Onto Something
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just not sure what, exactly.
I am finally getting around to webbing my Bella Nani documentation. While
doing so, several photos I have that didn't make it into the competition
paper were being prepped for uploading when it hit me: the pattern on those
sleeves were finally familiar.
I had recently flipped through several digitised lacemaking and embroidery
pattern books. In particular, one German (dated 1527), one Venezia(dated
1561). I noted at the time the repeating knotwork motif that occurs. I have
uploaded all these images onto a page:
http://outoftheattic.homeip.net/Sleeve_Theory.html Please pardon the margin
issues, it's rather late.
For whatever reason, 2+2 suddenly added to 4: Veronese was possibly using
those pattern books as embellishment inspiration. Some were so close that I
could practically say with confidence that was the actual pattern used. I
compared the other two with the same sleeve style, and sure enough, they too
match with stunning familiarity.
I thought perhaps that Veronese had designed some pattern books. It seemed
logical, he has a tendancy toward strong architectural environments in his
paintings. Upon a very cursory search of the net, there is no known
connection between Paolo Caliari and embroidery designs. But... I did find
out that his younger brother, Benedetto was the one who tended toward the
grandiose architecture in the backgrounds. His sons, Carlo (or Carletto) and
Gabriele, along with Benedetto, were all occupied with finishing Paolo's
paintings after his death.
I have to wonder if these paintings were not done entirely by Paolo himself,
but his brother in particular had a hand in designing them, adding into them
a geometric, architectural element by using embroidery pattern books?
Benedetto in his own right has frescoes attributed to him at Villa Cornaro,
and Villa Gradenigo, and shares attribution with Paolo for San Sebastiano,
which accounts for each of these common sources. Having taken a look at
Carlo and Benedetto's works, there are few differences in style and
composition. Maybe this is what accounts for the relative novelty of these
paintings?
Kathy
Ermine, a lion rampant tail nowed gules charged on the shoulder with a rose
Or barbed, seeded, slipped and leaved vert(Fieldless) On a rose Or barbed
vert a lion's head erased gules.
Its never too late to be who you might have been.
-George Eliot
Tosach eslais imchomarc. - Questioning is the beginning of knowledge.
http://www.sengoidelc.com/node/131
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 06:51:30 -0400
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Subject: [h-cost] Re: Disaster!
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Further note on Biz: You can place your project in Biz for as long as you
would like. Just swish it gently every so often and change out the water for
a fresh solution when it changes color. It can literally soak for a few days
without hurting the fabric!
Megh E.
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>From: "Sue Clemenger" [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> .....................There's a fairly common laundry treatment called
"Biz"
>that you dissolve in hot water and use to soak your items. I put my poor
>coif through two separate soaks, and a good wash, and it's almost 100%
clear
>of the pink stain.......................
>Good luck!
>--Sue
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Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 09:51:17 -0500
From: "E House" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Onto Something
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Yep, that sleeve definitely seems to match the bottom second image on the
last row from the patternbooks! But, are you certain that the sleeve is
invented? Perhaps the lady's dressmaker is the one with the patternbook.
-E House
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