Fran wrote:
>My opinions are as valid as yours.  
 
Ditto, which is why I suggested simply skimming/deleting. To be honest, I can't 
see how anyone finds the second or two it takes to realise a message isn't 
worth reading a real and serious drain on their time (since I get the digest). 
If I'm too busy, I just let the mail pile up and get on with whatever is so 
important. Maybe you're on too many lists? (I unsubscribed from a lot last year 
for the same reason, BION).
 
>Meanwhile, I am trying to present a constructive solution that might help you 
>and others.
 
Dandy.
 
>I gave up subscribing to digests for any list as soon as I discovered filters, 
>precisely because filters are much more efficient. 
 
Yup, I filter /lots/ - but the sheer volume here means that a digest is by far 
the quickest way to get through the noise-to-content and find out what I need.
 
>The point is not whether people should be warm-hearted and help each other. 
>The point is whether on an >unrelated list they should keep all or most of it 
>to private email.
 
Two things: helping people is - for me - what makes the net useful. Whether 
that's all the assistance I've had from the people on this list or copying 
pages from a book for someone or donating stuff after a natural disaster: none 
of it would be possible without the internet and this list. When it goes off 
topic - and yup, it does it more than I'd like sometimes - I just zip past. The 
second is that I don't see the point (and this is /not/ personal) in 
complaining about it since it really honestly doesn't affect my life that much 
and people are needing to chat/talk/share unrelated info. If they need to, 
fine, I don't usually. That's all.
 
>Insstead of presenting a situation whether either you or I have to quit 
>h-costume, and perhaps asking other >people to take sides as to which of us 
>should quit, why not do or suggest something constructive?  
 
I don't think that is an option, is it? It isn't a duel at the OK Corral and I 
certainly hadn't seen it like that - until you suggested it!  As for other folk 
taking sides...  I think that a) we're all adults and b) the debate is rather 
more about the relative tolerance of chat and noise outside costuming. That is 
going to vary with each individual and how they feel that hour/day. It's 
certainly nothing more personal than that and I assumed you wouldn't take it as 
such, given previous discussions.
 
IF people feel like saying OT in a header why not see if it works, informally? 
I know that discussions are often taken off list but it would be a shame if 
people took costume related chat offline in case anyone got ticked off and we 
missed out. Me, I'd rather wade through miles of "how cool" than miss where the 
original inspiration for the garment/research/technique came from. YMMV, as 
they say.
 
Katherine
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